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Ukraine Emergency

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In the Caribbean, episode 102, this is an emergency Ukraine-Russia broadcast. This show has somewhat unusual format because I will interview various friends in succession to get their opinion and perhaps new information about latest happenings, Russia-Ukraine step conflict. I want to explain briefly my own position, which you will know surely from listening me before if you know this show from reading the things I've written before and I wrote also yesterday a post on Telegram that got spread around on Twitter and the rest of the internets quite a bit about why I support Russia and Putin in this and it's not because I have any special love of Putin, I'm sure he's corrupt and a kleptocrat and many other

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such thing, but he is not my concern and neither is Russia's internal configurations or future. My concern is this cabal that has taken over the Western societies that wears their traditions and names like skin, like Buffalo Bill would wear the skins of his victims. It's a serial killer, John Wayne Gacy, a tranny clown, that wears the skins of people, by people I mean traditions, institutions, nations, that it infects nations, that it slits their throat and then impersonates them. This cabal I oppose primarily for two, three big reasons. First of all, the mass immigration problem where they are replacing the populations of Canada, United States, basically entire Anglo-sphere and also Western Europe, replacing their populations

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where if you look at effects of 70 years American vassalage by West Europe versus 40 years brutal occupation by Soviet chimps in East Europe. I think that West Europe is much worse off. East Europe has some internal problems, economic problems, demographic problems. All societies have gone through cycles such as these in their histories. They can recover from that. The one thing you cannot recover from is when your own population is replaced by another. There can be no coming back from that. Other than expulsion or genocide, which I do not endorse, but these are the options that are left for West Europe and America right now. National extinction or cycles of expulsion and genocide from one side or the other, or all three together actually.

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And this is not as a result of some historical accident or impersonal economic or historical forces. This is the doings of this small oligarchy that has hijacked Western societies, at least since after World War II, but actually from before. They are my adversary, they are a mortal threat to all of us, and I've been trying to warn friends actually in real life, I've lost many friends, because I cannot stop talking about this for a long time, for perhaps 20 years or more, since I was actually a small boy. The world we live in is ruled by quote-unquote satanic power, and I don't like to use the words Satan or satanic because, you know, it turns many people off and so, but you know, I'm quoting somebody when I say that particular phrase, okay. I've seen their doings for a long time.

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I've known who my enemy is. Putin isn't my enemy. China, who I despise as a country historically, China is not really my enemy. I just, the reason I am not pro-China the way I am pro-Putin is the same reason I am not pro-Arab, because I don't consider either China or Arabs to be effective opponents of this global oligarchy. Arabs are just retarded, and I always knew that things like ISIS and these other types Yes, they were motivated by the right spirit, but actually Arabs are very easily bought off. And once their religion collapses, the Arabs will be some of the most depraved embracers of modernism. Regardless, let me not go off Blueberry Pass too much. I just want to emphasize to you, I know who my enemy is. They are doing this, what I just said, mass immigration.

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They have done in Russia in 1990s when Russia made good faith effort to liberalize and to embrace the West. What Russia got for that was the destruction of its industries and the excess deaths of millions of people, deaths of despair from their economic collapse because of what the West did to them. Sweden, parts of Holland and so forth, parts of the urban parts of France. This also was imposed by this cabal, by America, who works through its embassies in West Europe to promote mass immigration. And if you complain about this, you are treated brutally. So these are the main evils you could say that this cabal is doing. Number one is immigration. Especially related to this is the economic destruction of these societies.

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My own concern is especially the environmental degradation, which many nations are party to this, including Russia and China. But the United States has introduced certain new things, new kind of pesticides, new kinds of genetically modified organisms, which are not used in Russia and so forth, that banned And in fact, I think the destruction of nature as the destruction of people through biological overwhelming change, these are irreversible changes. This is basically the only reason me and many friends are interested in politics at all, because we see in modern world potential this cabal is imposing on the world where what What happens is irreversible, and this is a big concern. Now besides these, there is also some other smaller thing, the wars they start and so forth.

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I'm less concerned about that, but their list of failures and evils do not stop at immigration or the destruction of environment and economies and the destruction of millions and millions of lives. Now in the last two years, they've gone mask off and now entire world sees them for what they are because of their mismanagement, to put it mild, of Wuhan crisis, which even if you give them benefit of doubt, let's say there was not conspiracy, there was not this, okay, whatever, they mismanaged it so badly and they lied so many times about the lockdowns, the masks, the vaccines. They are such It's a very nice thing to see. And then the response to that was to take away their bank accounts and to brutally beat them, which is the same thing America has done to some of the bona fide – I'm not

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talking about the feds, but there were bona fide protesters on January 6th trying to stop the coup, which that's what it was. It was not an election. It was a canceled election followed by a coup. They were trying to stop that and American government treated them brutally the same way that dissidents in West Europe for a long time now have been treated brutally, meaning put in jail, blinded and beaten to death. This is happening in West Germany, in the Germany of today, and in West Europe since World War II. It's not reported on, but it happens a lot. I've mentioned on this show a very good writer, Henri de Montaland. He was a reactionary writer. He was treated brutally by Antifa, which is not a new phenomenon.

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The way it works is the government, certain government, local officials, give Antifa your location, they give them your name and they outsource the violence done to dissidents to Antifa. And this tactic and also the economic death given to anyone who speaks out in the slightest is being widely used now by this occupational class of the West. They have shown themselves clearly as your adversary. And I'm a little disappointed to see some of the so-called dissident right and many conservatives that were somewhat predictable, but people who should know better, people who have seen, especially, as I say, these last two years, you've seen them lie to you nonstop about Wuhan, say one thing and then another thing a week later and viciously punish and cancel people who speak against that.

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Teach racial hatred to children. children, so-called cult of transgenderism, which is really a revival of ancient tactic that some tyrants used to castrate the sons of their enemies, this old brutal terroristic tyrannical tactic resurrected in modern world under another name. So why would you cheer on this regime in the West when they attack Putin? When they try to gin up the same hysteria now about Ukraine and supposedly Putin's actions in Ukraine, it is first of all of no concern to any of us what happened in Ukraine or Kazakhstan. But second of all, if you want to make it your concern, you should take Putin's part because he, aside from any other considerations, and let me again go on a tangent and tell

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you what these considerations are now. Ukraine has been used as a base by this regime. It is for them a great value prize, a space of freedom. They go there, they launder money to themselves. If they want a hoax to enter into political discourse, to attack their political enemies, what they do is they go to Ukraine's so-called intelligence services, which are owned by them, they have them manufacture false intelligence, for example, that Trump was owned by the Russians or that he let a Russian whore piss on his head or this. They manufacture that there and because the supposed origin of that falsehood is an intelligence agency, it can enter Western intelligence agencies from there. a good thing. This is my position. I have not heard any reasons about why this is wrong.

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What happened with Russia and Stalin 70 years ago, 80 years ago is irrelevant for this calculation. I would like at the end of this first segment to ask friends to continue to meme the truth. Memes are not disinformation. can mean simply speak truth, tell the truth to your normie friends or just post online about truth, what happened right now, Ukraine, Russia, and do not let this deluge of propaganda overcome people's sins to where it becomes perhaps – I don't want to be alarmist because this is what journalists do, they say it becomes World War and this – but I think there is a remote chance of real world war in this case because people running west right now are in the sides and actually if they push Russia too hard, Russia does not even need to use nuclear weapons.

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They have sleeper agents in United States which can do incredible damage. In any case, I do not want things to get to there, but I am afraid that these extremely insecure people in charge of American government will provoke something very bad. And the best way to stop them before they do that is to humiliate them utterly, completely. In any case, I wish Putler success and luck in his humiliation campaign of the Western governments, which are occupied governments. They're not your governments, they are your enemy. Now that being said, I've spoken too much, Brennan, are you here? How much have I spoken? Listen, I must go now, I will have very nice guests on this show, I hope you enjoy this long show, maybe you listen two or three sitting, you prepare coffee, you put rum in coffee,

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this old recipe, very good, thank you, I will be right back with guests. Welcome to Emergency Ukraine Broadcast, this Caribbean Rism, Episode 102, I have online emergency broadcast. This Nick Cello, cruey cigarette, a fascist cigarette smuggler, we first met a long time ago in Marseille. I understand. Can I give your location? Where are you, Nick, right now? Where are you in the world? Right now I'm in Malaga, Spain at the very southern end. I am on a yacht belonging to a Russian oligarch. I'm trying to broker a deal. That's all I can say right now. Yes. You are enjoying the shrimps there? They have the raw shrimps, you are enjoying this? All over my face, slathering it. Love it. Yes, there is shrimps and white wine as there was a, but Tim and Eric have gone the wrong way,

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but they were very funny in that episode. Nick, look, enough of pleasantries. There is a world crisis. Ukraine, everyone mind on Ukraine. What you think this, what you think? Here's what I think. The Americans backed Russia into a corner. They are getting precisely what they want right now. Russia has invaded Ukraine. Europe has already submitted to US whims, both on energy policy and on military spending. Propaganda is in overdrive. A narrative has been constructed in the West where people are mirroring each other, blasting the same signal all over the place, but that narrative is a false one because it doesn't reflect the actual facts on the ground in Ukraine. If you look at social media right now, what do you see? Ukrainians are holding them back.

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But the fact of the matter is that Kharkov is about to get cut off from Kiev. The Donbass that's not part of the rebel side that's held by the Ukrainian government is about to be put into what they call a kotel, which is a kettle. The facts on the ground show that Russia is kicking the shit out of them While at the same time protecting civilians and not even pulling out both their arms, okay? They are basically going in very light for now Yes, yes is a very strange because Just to make clear to audience you and I are not against Ukraine in fact. I know frogs in Ukraine and so forth but it's very sad I think I I have been talking various people, I excuse audience to repeat myself, but it seemed to me that United States' plan is to provoke a massacre, to parade in front of television

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cameras, to gin up outrage, because to them a war is a matter of PR. Is this what you see happening? is absolutely correct, because the end goal here is not about Ukraine, it's about regime change in Moscow, which they've been trying to do ever since Putin got put into power by the Syloviki, and when he told the oligarchs, sat them down, shut the fuck up, you keep your money, but you stay out of politics. Because the dream scenario for USA is to put a client-client regime into Moscow, so that once again, just like the 1990s, they can start selling everything off. One of the ways to do that is to lure Russia into conflict like this. The dream, not the dream, but the state of goal is to turn Western Ukraine into the Afghanistan of the 1980s, where instead of

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Mujahideen, you have these Europeans and other volunteers from Gondol School, where else, maybe including Mujahideen, basically drain Russia. With what you say with regards to the the desire to provoke massacres and things like that, that's one way to delegitimize the Russian government so that they can push even stronger against them. They want to. They're trying to do everything to provoke that type of overreaction, because then all sorts of international law kick in. They want to grab Putin, put him in a monkey cage at The Hague, and put him on war crimes trials. Niko, the reasons you gave for Putin to do this, you say he was backed into it. He gave long speech, which was quite an amazing speech, because I don't think any American

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president going at least back to Bush senior, and maybe including him, would have been able, even if there had been a teleprompter, to sit down and give a one-hour talk with historical concrete detail, and no-nonsense interest considerations. I don't know any American politician who can talk that way. It's all about our values, our principles. And I thought Putin was quite clear in that. But I'm hearing from people, even who are sympathetic to Russia, that they are confused what Russia plan, what is it planning to do, what Russia wants. Russia state has been relatively tight-lipped. They don't have a PR push. What would you say, leaving aside the Putin speech, justifying his actions, assuming people

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know that, can you say a little bit more about what you think Putin plans are here, of what is his aim? Why do you say he's back? Yeah, I can speculate that, because, as you said, they're being very tight-lipped. And so we can only engage in speculation. overarching objective here is to fuck Ukraine's shit up so much that it can never become a member of NATO, even stealth, because over the last few years what's been happening there is that it's been a stealth entry of NATO forces, training equipment, etc. The nightmare situation, of course, is rockets pointed at Russia from Ukrainian soil, which eliminates Russia's nuclear deterrence. Now, with an operational perspective, what we're looking at here is basically the old

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Russian skill of moving forces in, luring some one way, luring others another way, and then encircling and trapping and destroying them. We saw that in 2014 in Ukraine. We've seen that in Syria as well. What they're doing is becoming rather clear now with respect to how they're going around cities because they don't want to kick the shit out of those cities. They want to cause significant civilian and other damage, casualties and all that. So what they did was they made a huge push at Kiev with some probing there, with some forces that got knocked back, typical for Russians and how they act. And what that does is it means that they cannot redirect forces from Kiev to the east. Now, the same with Kharkov. With Kharkov, there was an attack from the front, but you're not going

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to put all of your assets and go in a head-on collision, especially with a city that's as fortified as Kharkov is right now. What you're going to see is the southern front that came out of Crimea. They're going to start going in behind the Donbass, in behind Kharkov, and from the north, they're going to split Kharkov from Kiev. You're going to have a line at the Dnieper River. Now, Are they going to cross that, besides the area around Odessa? I don't know. I don't think they will unless they make a chase for the western portion of that river, but I don't think they're going to go all the way to Lwów. That's a bit far, and that's really, really unfriendly territory, and not just that, that then you're in range of actual NATO weapons. NATO's going to want to

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create a buffer zone, so I think they'll stop well short of that if they continue to proceed. Yes. Do you think there's any chance this my dream scenario that they will take care of putting his claim that he wants to bring the evildoers to justice? He's talking about war criminals and such who burn the Russian citizens alike, whatever his name is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's talked about these people. My special hope is that he will be able to grab either the archives if everything has not been burned yet, but at least to grab some individuals who can testify as to America's corruption in Ukraine, not just the Biden family, which everyone knows about, but the way Ukraine has been used for 10, 20 years for massive money laundering, where you have

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Victoria Nuland saying, we invested $5 billion into, quote-unquote, Ukrainian democracy, And where these billions of dollars go is into Biden's family bank accounts through various justifications and so on. Do you think there's any chance, and I'm aware that any evidence there on earth will be denounced as fake and so forth, but do you think that's part of Russia's plan to find such evidence? Russia would love to find a smoking gun to connect that. That's why they do a lot of espionage, I thought they do a lot of surveillance. how Vicky fucked the EU. Newland, her famous quote, came out. But you already answered your own question. You answered your question because any proof that Russia provides is going to be automatically dismissed as fake,

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fraudulent forgery. The narrative here, the information war in the West, Russia didn't even enter it because they know it's unwinnable for them. But at the same time, their focus is creating facts on the ground. They know now, they cannot engage with the West on that type of view level. They can't convince them of everything no matter if they're right about something. I'm not saying they're right about everything, but if they're right about something, they're not gonna be able to convince them anyways. The West has already created their own narrative. They've already answered all of their own questions. So, even if Russia pulls out, you know, photo evidence of pedophile elites and stuff like that, no one's gonna accept it. No one's gonna believe it except autists like us on the Internet.

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Yes. I mean, I asked this question before I was banned, this amazing, the number of young Ukrainian women who have probably gone missing since 2014, is anybody curious about this? Their place in international human trafficking, slave trafficking, white slavery, anybody curious about this? I don't know. Nico, I want to ask you, I know you're very busy, I don't want to keep you too long. I have one or two more questions if you don't mind. I wanted to ask you two close related questions about the response to this. On one hand, in East Europe, not just in Croatia, but if you know in Croatia, but other parts of East Europe, East Europeans are predictably anti-Russian. What is the response to this in East Europe from people in Visegrad Group and others who

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are from the right-wing dissident point of view, they are quote-unquote based, they stand up against Global HOMO, we all like Orban and these people. But I know you are, you know Visegrad Group very well, these are, correct me if I'm wrong, it's Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Croatia, is that right? I don't know. No, no, no. Czech Republic is the fourth. Czech Republic is the fourth. I see. Czech Republic. So what is the response to this? These are traditionally Russia-hating countries. On the other hand, you and I have been online together for what, 13, 14 years? I don't even know. People in Frog Twitter, you are not Frog Twitter, but people in these circles have been with us for many years. Now, most of them, I think, are either neutral on this or they are sympathetic to Putin,

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because Putin stands almost uniquely against the adversary we all share, which are the governments of United States and West Europe or whoever has hijacked these governments. It is very strange, however, to see that there are some frogs, including people we've known for some time. They go for Ukraine. It's very strange to me, Nico, if you want to comment on this, because they are invoking this kind of World War II rhetoric about Bolshevism against Aryan right-wing Ukraine. Greg Johnson, of course, believes this, but many others too. And it is disappointing to see some frogs, they believe in this. It's been used on them as a wedge issue. aligned with the aims of the Brussels and Washington, D.C., and so forth.

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And similar with which issue going on right now, as we talked, there is so-called CPAC, the Conservative Mossad Political Action Conference, where, again, it is being used as a wedge issue. Some voices of reason, like J.D. Vance and others, are saying not America business, we have big problem at home, do not get involved there. And then, on the other hand, you have Marco Rubio, little Miami rent boy, and the other rent boy Cruz, the undertaker, lying Cruz, ginning up war rhetoric. And my concern is that significant portion of frog and even I'm not surprised about GOP establishment, but I do not want to see MAGA embrace this idiotic war fervor. What do you think is behind this, the fact that both East Europeans and American so-called

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dissident right, Dickie Spencer, of course, with his Ukraine flag, they are embracing the Ukraine cause on the surface, but really they're embracing the aims of their own enemies, of people who shut bank accounts, of truckers who shut people in their homes to use, and so forth? Well, you said it yourself. With the American dissidents who are siding with Ukraine, it's several levels and several different types of idiotacy. You have ones who try to apply racialist analysis to it, which is dumb. You have other ones who look at it from a national sovereignty perspective, but the problem with that is that Ukraine is not sovereign. Zelensky was purposely put into the Panama Papers as having offshore accounts because

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that's how they have him by the balls, and that's why he's got to dance the way he's dancing. He's been trying to sue for peace with the Russians for three days now and every time he gets smacked down by the US State Department. So, whatever these Americans are saying, who are siding with Ukraine, they're missing the big picture. The big picture is that we all want to see the gay, let's call it the gay, get a nice smack. Even if it's symbolic or even it's got a little bit of muscle behind it, we want to see it because you have to shake their ability to execute and perform. If you let them win this round, then all it's going to do is it embolden them, and it's going to dissipate what little opposition is left to them. With respect to those from Central and Eastern Europe, those are

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historical grievances, and they're very, very valid. We have to be very careful with our friends in Ukraine, in Poland, the Baltic countries, everywhere else V4, Romania, etc., because they have valid reasons for not liking Russians. The only way that gets fixed. There's two ways. One is time. Time heals all wounds. But number two, they have to see an American sponsored regime get the shit kicked out of it because it shakes the confidence again in how the United States, Western Europe, et cetera, perform on the global stage. Okay. So everybody should be praying for Ukrainians to keep safe, but at the same time for russian forces to finish their job yes yes for example for me for example batby for example like my cousins you know creations both in canada

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croatia germany everywhere like a lot of them are giving me shit because of my position but i'm telling them you guys got to see the bigger fucking picture here you can't rely on old ethnic grievances all the time because all you're doing is creating a myopic view for yourself yes you've seen it uh as succinctly as As anyone could, Nick, I don't want to comment more on this, because this also my position. It's clear who the enemy is. The enemy is the people flooding the West with third-world migration, who have deindustrialized America, who have caused Fentanyl crisis. Putin didn't cause that. He's not the one using microwave weapons against Australian protesters. He's not the one who took sovereignty away from West European nations to where right

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now in certain age groups, youth in Germany, they have been made minorities in their own country. That's not Putin. That, who did that, is the existential threat, not Putin. And Putin is their enemy. I don't really care about his own reasons. I'm sure he's self-interested. So what? I want to see him humiliate them a little bit because, as you say, they feed off of PR. When they are humiliated, it significantly hinders their ability to hatch new plans. Nicole, if you don't mind, I know you are busy. I just have one last question. You mentioned East European countries and their traditional grievances. I had this idea. Why not Hungary and Romania, for example, why don't they take this opportunity? And Hungary can seize, I believe it's called Transcarpathia, is that correct?

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Yeah, yeah, Transcarpathia, where Ustorod is, yes, yes. And then Romania can seize Moldova, and that autistic part that's hanging down below Moldova along the Black Sea coast. Yes, it bothered me to see such thing on map, that thing below Moldova. Why not just take the day, seize them? Do you believe these countries should take this opportunity? I think they should take this opportunity. We know that's not going to happen, but just to clean the map, even just to clean up the map a bit is a good idea, just for the sake of aesthetic appeal. Yeah. No, it's aesthetic, and now people are extending that. They're saying if Russia seizes Ukraine, then to prevent an unaesthetic map, they have to seize Belarus and the Baltic states as well. I don't know, that's what people who care about design

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and aesthetics are saying, it's not me, it's just the opinion I see, interior design people. Well, again, humiliating the regime is the most important thing here. Ukraine has been sacrificed by these guys. Biden's been telegraphing to them the entire time. We're not gonna put troops down there. We'll send you gear, but we're not gonna put the troops down there. They're being sacrificed, they're the sacrificial lamb. They're getting the shit kicked out of them. And it's only going to get worse in the coming days unless they strike a deal with Russia. Yes, I agree with you, Niko, and many have understood why I begged Ukrainian frogs. There aren't many, but there are a few. They like me. They like you. They like my book. I beg them, just desert, run away.

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It's not worth being sacrificed so that Jen Psaki can parade your dead body and, you know, to gin up outrage. That is a stupid death. They want to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, and they want to sanction Russia to the last European with five euros in his pocket. Yes, yes, yes. And these sanctions may backfire. That's a whole other thing. I don't know if you have time to talk this, but what happens if they completely remove Russia from SWIFT? I think that would be good for the creation of alternative financial system. What watchers are saying, Bap, is that that's only going to spur the de-dollarization of the globe. Yes. And the dollar is, next to the military, two in tandem, are the fundamental sources of American power globally.

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Now, I'm not an economics guy, so I can't speculate much on that, but India already announced they're gonna look for workarounds outside of Swift to keep dealing with Russia because most of their arms are imported from Russia for example and they want to stay on Russia's good side because they have issues with China. At the same time China, Xi and Putin met recently. Don't think a lot of this wasn't coordinated already because the Chinese have a couple of things going on here. A, they know Americans are coming for them, they're gunning for them and B, letting this happen in Ukraine puts the heat off of them for a little bits, but the pivot to Asia is still happening. So, of course, they coordinated on that. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, I don't know. I just hope that they will adopt

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CRAPTO and there will be alternative CRAPTO financial systems so that these Western governments can no longer blackmail their own citizens with the same tactic. We're going to freeze your bank accounts and so forth. But I don't know, Niko. Look, I don't want to keep you longer if you have to go, but I just want to say something to your audience. I just want to say something to your audience. Is that okay? All right. If you guys out there listening to BAP's program, if you guys ever get advice on restaurants from him, be very careful. He sent me to a sushi joint in Madrid and I sent him the bill. I took a picture of it, 179 euros. Well, look, I told you it was special. It's a special restaurant, but it is the

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best sushi place in Madrid. It is the best ones there. You enjoyed the food, didn't you, you know? 179 euros, you fuck. It's not my fault you are a gourmand and you had one of each thing from many years. You're supposed to have one drink and a small snack. This guy, he comes from a society where if you are not six foot two by age of 18 your father killed you this guy is what six foot seven he ate like horse it's not like that you're misrepresenting you you go you go to these restaurants you're supposed to have a snack and a drink and you you just gorge yourself then you blame them you know it looks like a fucking joke the little tiny pieces bad like just boom boom boom boom boom next thing you know 179 euros yeah yeah yeah well it's it's it's a good plan guys be

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Yes, Niko, forgetting restaurants, if World War III breaks out, I don't know what you think the odds of that are, but I'm inviting all friends to the table mountains of Venezuela. We will stay in the shade there. We will drink Russia vodka and watch the world burn. What do you say? Yes, yes, we do tanning. We do swimming. We do archery. Yes. Yeah, this will be a good tennis club experience. And we get the boondah. We get the boondah down there too. Yeah, well, the boondah, you know, in the jungle, it's possible. The strategic boondah reserve. There are strategic boondah reserves. We have been keeping them at the Russian embassy in Karakas. But very good, Nico, thank you so much for coming on show. And I hope you come again. Lots of people have been asking us to do a long show again.

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I hope you come again. We talk to geopolitics and perhaps history, Europe and many such things. What do you say? We can do it. No problem. Be my pleasure. Very good, Niko. Very good. Hal Puthler then and until next time. Welcome to Caribbean resume and here I have Thomas 777 is a Viking overlord from the streets of Chicago. And Thomas, how are you today? We are meeting on a Ukraine emergency broadcast. you make of this situation in Ukraine? Well, what I make of it is that it was inevitable. I basically agree with John Mearsheimer's take. I know that a lot of guys in our thing are fans of John Mearsheimer, and I am as well. I part ways with him on some topics of interest, but the way his take on American policy seems to be going to be said to be a coherent policy towards

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Russia I think is very insightful and correct and frankly I was not surprised that Mr. Putin ordered this broad front assault on Ukraine. I believe that his hand was basically forced. I don't just mean by circumstances owing to this aggressive move to deploy NATO forces in Ukraine. I mean that was a catalyst but Putin is in fact accountable to other people within the regime that he serves. He's not some sort of absolute authority. I mean, no man truly is under any normal conditions. But I believe that the Russian General Staff, whatever its equivalent is, I don't know a lot about the Russian Armed Forces, basically gave him the ultimatum as to act now or he would be removed from office for all practical purposes. It may not have been stated that bluntly,

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but I guarantee that was the understanding. So it doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's a tragedy for for the people of Ukraine, but other than those directly victimized by it, I don't really think this is a tremendously impactful event. It exposes kind of the hollowness of U.S. rhetoric, because there's really only two outcomes here. Either NATO America does nothing, or the only other alternative would be to engage the Russian Federation's army, and that's not going to happen. Even if the political will was there, there's not the forces and being to do that. And the NATO command structure, I think, is something of a fiction, but any kind of operational order would begin in America and would be transmitted to Berlin still. That does not change.

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I cannot see, I can't see Germany playing ball with some sort of assault on Russia. I just can't. So that said, I mean, there's not, in the absence of possible outcomes, it's very clear What's going to happen and nothing is going to happen because nothing can happen again. Yeah in theater I'm sure horrible things are happening of great consequence, but on the global stage, I mean, that's an overused term But I think it's contextually Appropriate that's my take in a nutshell. Yes. What do you mean when you say? Butler's hand was forced aside from the NATO expansion thing of what other motivations you see he might have and the internal pressure but why is he getting this internal pressure? I mean aside from NATO expansion what is Russia concerned with Ukraine? Well what I

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think changed if anything changed I mean I don't speak or read Russian so I kind of have to observe things from without and how the Russians respond to things and I'm getting fairly old and I am something of a student of the 20th century and I mean the Russians traditionally wait too long before giving an assault order in contrast to the Germans who arguably act too early in some strategic circumstances. I think that Putin was hoping that after Crimea was assimilated into the Russian Federation that essentially the opposing forces in Ukraine that were fighting against the Russian Federation would eventually see that they can't accomplish their goals by military means, and this would force them to the negotiating table.

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When that didn't happen, and when in fact the situation deteriorated, I think the military authorities in Russia realized we don't act now, this isn't going to be manageable. If it blows up into a giant Bosnia kind of situation, at some point U.N. blue hats are going to be on the ground, or NATO itself might even be able to insinuate itself from the conflict under the auspices of peacekeeping. So it reached a critical juncture, I believe, wherein any further deterioration of the situation would have been on Russia's doorstep, quite literally. And that's what I meant. The political conditions haven't changed, but the military situation certainly did from what I can see. Yes. Why do you think Ukraine was not willing to negotiate at all?

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Is it because of old-standing East European hatred of Russia because of Russia's chimp, brutal history? Or is it that the leader of Ukraine, the Jewish comedian Zelensky, is an American puppet entirely and does only what United States tell him? My belief, Thomas, I don't know if you agree with this, but he only does what he's told by certain factions in United States and who knows who else. And the purpose of these factions is basically to have Ukrainians die in an ostentatious way so they can parade images on television for PR purposes. Same PR understanding of politics America has had since JFK. What do your opinion on this? Why Ukraine not willing to negotiate? It seems crazy, you know. No, I agree with you, and I mean that's the big question because Putin, as you know, offered

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them a sweetheart deal back in 2014, he offered them $15 billion in unconditional aid and development money, which I mean is a bribe and all but name, and I think, I mean I agree with you, the Ukrainian regime is bought and paid for by Washington and these NGOs all in sundry, but also I don't know the situation on the ground in Ukraine, and maybe it will be like what happened in Bosnia, you know, you've got a political leadership cast. In those days it was Milosevic, you know, who was the Serbian honcho, you know, he really was hoping that he could find some kind of political solution, but when Chetniks, Croats and Moslems just began massacring each other, you know, circumstances kind of dictated what the politics of the day would be.

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I think to some degree that happened in Ukraine, yeah, the Ukrainian regime is an American puppet and they did nothing to stop that and may have even stoked the the fires of this kind of violence when it was still nascent enough to be controlled but i also think the situation on the ground is probably yukis who don't even particularly like the government or like the west but they want to kill russian because they hate them and i i mean that that's that monkey wrenches things regardless of what outcome anyone would want to force like i said i don't know and uh i i don't know unfortunately i don't know anybody who's on the ground in ukraine who can relate to me what's actually happening, but that's my view from the outside, and I'm pretty confident it's correct. Yes.

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You mentioned Mearsheimer. He is a rare exception, a man who, I think he's professor at University of Chicago, is that right, or I don't know, but he is rare a man with academic major position who nevertheless stands against consensus of American foreign policy establishment, which spans academia, government, NGOs, media, many such things. And I've been told from things, some things I observe, is people in that world, and it's not recent, it's two or three decades at least, if not since fall of Soviet Union, but people in that world, if you are, let's say, in political studies program and you are trying to come up through that and then get government position at all stages, you are not allowed even to consider that Russia has national interest or legitimate national interest worth talking

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about. And if you bring up the question even hypothetically from Russia's point of view, you don't get a job, you don't get funding, you don't get any advancement. Now, there are obviously some exceptions, older men like Mir-Sheimer, who came up through system before this, but this last two or three decades, basically you are not allowed, if you are part of any kind of foreign policy commentariat, think tank, government position in State Department, you are not allowed to admit that Russia has any legitimate national interest. Do you have an opinion on this and on what effects of what sound to me like fanaticism? This is fanaticism, Thomas. Yeah, I basically agree. there's in Department of State I mean there's obviously a kind of rigid

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consensus and but the thing is I I think yeah I think there's basically a hatred and hostility of Russia in Washington but I think in policy terms it just translates to a lot of moral posturing years because like I said it I mean people can villainize Russia and mr. Putin or and whoever a successor is all they want if there's not if it's not a possible policy course on the table other than to, you know, tolerate what Russia does with its own sphere of influence, it's essentially performative. I mean, that's the point that I made on some of my platforms the other day, and I'm not sure if people really grasped it. You know, you've got to look at politics and political occurrences kind of like you do economics and economic events.

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I mean, yeah, there's polemic that colors the picture we can glean of these things, you know, and people weigh their takes on such matters with their own values, but at end of the day we're talking about objective occurrences and you know we're talking about things that inevitably occur based on the presence of certain variables and certain actions based upon the presence of those variables and again it's like I said whatever Russia does in Ukraine no matter what anybody thinks of it no matter how hostile they might be to Russia you know defending its vital interests unless one is that prepared to deploy combined arms possibly chemical and nuclear weapons and wage a truly apocalyptic conflict with the Russians in Central Europe,

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but the Russians are going to do whatever they want, just as America is going to do whatever it wants in Central and South America. I mean, there's not really any grounds for argument in policy terms. So yeah, and I'm also the belief, as I've said, the Department of State and the Pentagon and most of these deep state features, they really kind of put themselves out of business after the Cold War by winning it almost by accident I think. They stumbled into this Cold War victory and they became entirely redundant. Even if you believe Russia is bad or evil or something, the way the U.S. regime is structured in terms of its diplomatic apparatus and its military capability, it's not really structured to fight a 21st century war on the front of information and propaganda or in terms of

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the military. I'm not saying the U.S. military can't generate firepower, but it takes more than firepower to win the kind of conflicts that are extant and emergent. But yeah, I basically forgive these tangents, I agree with you very much, and of course at the end of the day, too, it's obviously a kind of impassioned hostility towards Russia itself because there's nothing in Ukraine. That's not a slam on Ukrainian people, but there's nothing of value there to the West, Other than the possibility of using it as a basing platform, which obviously is in very binary terms a hassle to Russia. That's my view. Yes. No, I see. But what about the removal of Russia from SWIFT? I know it is limited for now, and they said it is just some banks that were already sanctioned.

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But related to this, I don't know if it's true. I saw a declaration that Russia has $440 billion about in foreign banks, and that they will not be able to access this money now. Now, that is a gigantic hit, because Putler was saving that money exactly for a rainy day when West would enact stronger sanctions. But now West is saying, you are no longer able to access that money. I don't know if this is true or not, but if that happens, won't Putin have to retaliate? Won't this escalate? I mean, I don't really see, I speculate, people claim that Putin very much has a lot of his own personal fortune and some kind of slush fund that consists of a lot of Western backed derivatives and things. I have no idea if that's true.

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What I do know about the Russian state, I mean, there's simply not meaningful complex interdependence between America and Russia you know there is there's major energy interdependence and commodity interdependence between the European Union and Russia but that'd be something there'd be so much self sabotaging if the Europeans and particularly Germany continue on this course saying that they're not going to they're no longer going to import Russian energy yes I I I'd be very very surprised if that endured but I'm afraid I promise I'm afraid of self sabotage because they did this two years ago with the mass lockdowns in a similar mood of hysteria they did extremely reckless self sabotage type things and I see same hysteria and emotionalism action now I

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think it's possible they would lead to case where Russia cut off gas to Europe no I you may be wrong be right you may be wrong be right but it's I've told people the other day I'm not some kind of market guru or something but there's not been some like precipitous panic in stocks and I mean granted those things don't really happen all that much anymore because owing to instantaneous information availability and things like that, but my point is that it's not as if America and Russia are heavily, heavily intertwined in some way, like the United States and the People's Republic of China, telling Russia that you're going to seize their assets. You may hurt Putin personally. You may hurt certain political factions in Russia who, for whatever reason, have quite

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They literally gambled on American derivatives markets to house their wealth. But the Russian state, in Soviet times, they were a superpower and they were lurching along with something like 1.9% growth, something that America, the EU, and its people would view as unacceptable. The Russians don't care. Their economy is not going to crash if America says, we're not going to do business with you. We don't do business anyway. So I, yeah, I mean, like I said, I just agree with you on one hand, the situation that everyone in East Europe who joined NATO basically knows that America will never really come to their aid in any helpful way. So the idea that America will go to war even if Russia invades Estonia, which is NATO member, this used to be hard to believe.

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On the other hand, while America may not be able to effectively help, because the people in charge are imbecile fanatics, and now Rubio and some others are proposing imposing a no-fly zone over Ukraine, do you think that could escalate to where these idiots could actually get into war with Russia? They could try to shoot down Russian planes, and the Russian plane would try to shoot down American plane, and that can quickly escalate. I mean, I saw, Paul, just before talking to you, I don't know if it's true so much now is fake, right, fake news, right? But I saw, Paul, that two or three days ago 26 percent only of Americans thought that America had any stake in what's going on in Ukraine, whereas now, after three or four

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days of relentless propaganda from both right and left, you have something like 75 percent saying, yes, America has a duty to help Ukraine. Do you think, despite the fact that rational people would stay out of it, that these people are not rational, that it could escalate somehow to real war? I don't know. I would be very surprised. I mean, frankly, even if that poll data is correct, you know, you could probably, you could, I mean, I've got issues with the way these polls are conducted, especially in the present when you know people uh but beyond that um i make a problem after three or four days even if it is fake i mean the fact that someone like people in government think it's real and that they have mandate now to act you know i don't know i think it's performative but even at the

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end of the day i mean let's say the political will is there okay let's say there's a majority consensus in congress somehow to go to war with russia what is biden going to do is he going to Is here the Joint Chiefs gonna call Berlin give a general mobilization order that Germans gonna execute it then assault Russian columns with combined arms and poison gasps. That's what it would take Oh, I mean, I know that's what it would take. But no, they're not thinking rationally they're thinking we are going to be declared no-fly zone and Then we're going to shoot down any Russian plane over Ukraine forward comrades. I mean, this is I think think that kind of mindset I don't know no no I agree and some of these people

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are probably stupid or deluded enough to believe that but I guess my point is that if you if you at the poor you try to execute that an actual policy I think you're gonna have some kind of veto among military officers if not among the u.s. that is in places like the boom dis Republic yes and uh you know I I believe that's what happened with Wesley Clark I mean nobody really remembers that fool But he tried to assault the Russian army at Pristina Airport and some right-thinking British guy general officer said it No, I'm not gonna actually get that order. Yes, you know basically stood him down. Yes, and uh, You know, I realized that was you know going on 30 years ago now, but uh, I think um, I think you know

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There's the limitations of what can be implemented hard power wise in terms of political will in terms of material in terms of command and control and in terms of forces in being I mean I I think that's what's gonna force cooler heads to prevail because the alternative is like I said it you know you're fighting a total war in well with on the Russian border and then what chasing the Russian army into the Russian Federation and facing a tactical nuclear escalation I mean that's that's totally insane yes um so yeah I think I think even if even if some kind of consensus could be cobbled together based on propaganda and war fever and moral hysteria. I think that's what would be the kind of check on executing that as a policy. This is my opinion. Yes.

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No, I think ultimately you're right, and it probably won't escalate, but I want to have other questions that I know you are expert, Thomas, on the right and in particular the so-called far right or hard right in the last few decades after World War II and in more recent times, you are one of only people who know detailed history of what means white nationalist, where this white nationalist phenomenon come from, that it's a relic of the Cold War and so forth. We've taught some of this on show before. I am concerned because looking online in last, I don't know, week or even more, you have Richie Spencer, little Dickie Spencer, putting a Ukraine flag next to his name and standing against Russia. And it's not just him.

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It's many other so-called white nationalists or hard-right people or alt-right people who are coming out with, you know, as if it was the 1930s and they are coming out against the NKVD advancing on noble Europe, as if that's what's happening. I don't know if you've seen this online. You have people who for the last four or five years, since 2015 or 2016, have said the United States and West Europe are, for whatever reason, they've been taken over by this cabal that's ruining people's lives, flooding the nations with migrants from third world. Now they are castrating boys, calling it the transsexual movement and many other such things. We don't need to go over their crimes and failures over the last ten or twenty years,

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but this has been the antagonist of the alt-right so-called or the hard-right or of the white nationalists also. And yet all of a sudden, when a shit-hit fan, when a new event comes, they immediately get in line behind the foreign policy establishment and ZOG and their attacks on Russia and so forth, and this kind of rhetoric that Ukraine brothers is white Aryans and they are fighting the Asiatic Bolshevik hordes as if it was 1940. Thomas, what you make of this, if anyone can understand why this is happening, it is you. You and I and others have held the line and have been consistent. Why are these so-called Dickie Spencer and others, why are they doing this? Well the first thing that came to mind when this happened was who I thought of honestly was Greg Johnson.

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I don't know Greg Johnson personally, I've never met the dude. But he's a guy who has some very strange ideas, okay, let me put it like that. He consistently, way back in 2008, he was this big supporter of Ukraine and he's got a real thing about Ukrainian National Socialists and these guys being like the only true vanguard in Europe and in his case, I think he's a very deluded guy, I don't mind going on record saying that, that's not a personal slight, I don't know the guy but I think he really believes that and I think in his case, he's a guy who's prone to the no true Scotsman fallacy like a lot of these National Socialists guys are where everybody's corrupted, the Russians you know they carry water for the Jews fuck them you know there's no

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good guys anywhere but these Ukrainians they're hardcore because they won't negotiate with anybody that's the case with some of these guys with Spencer Spencer I don't know what his angle is but last time I heard from that fucking fool he was going around saying that he hated Donald Trump and and posting up these kind of faggy little photos of him voting for mr. bite I mean I don't even like it's it's some cutesy little game he plays as a theater student I or a I don't know, but I don't I don't believe he has any commitment anything at all in particular I think this is some kind of play acting bullshit, but in Johnson's case and unfortunately, honestly I think a lot of guys pay attention to Johnson like he's some kind of intellectual and I'm not saying he's stupid

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But his takes on power politics are completely off base but in his case, I think he's I think that's why and I think in this case, it's sincere as Broke as that might be the people who actually, you know understand these matters I don't think he's fake and I don't think he's just causing trouble And it's unfortunate. When people ask me, I try to clarify some of these things, but you can't force them to drink. That's my view of it. Yes, it's very strange. I know some people are genuine. Greg Johnson, he genuinely believes it. I think there's something worth going on, Dickie Spencer, and these so-called radfems accounts for the last few months, if you've seen them, Thomas, they pretend to be racist feminists or white nationalist feminists.

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In some permutation or other, we have been harassed by them since at least 2016. I remember seeing garbage going back then, but now they've become, they get a lot of engagement the last few months. I think I know actually they are the sock puppet accounts of transsexuals working for State Department and so forth through, not directly, but through some type of NGO monkey they get twenty to thirty thousand a year to quote unquote disrupt radical networks. And I think some PR agency thought, oh, they have this imagery of the blonde girl with braids in the wheat field, and Ukraine, and Ukraine-blonde nationalism. And we can rally these people who, although people say we're unimportant, in fact the meaning of the hard right is quite influential in media, quite disruptive.

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These people I know from, I will not say exactly who, but I know many people in military, in in military intelligence and even in the NATO detachment that used to be in Ukraine and other such things. The powers that did, Thomas, were very, very upset about the online response to the Afghan debacle. They were extreme embarrassed by that, by the way we rightly humiliated them when they failed there. They do not want a repeat of that. And I think this whole, at least part of this whole white nationalist pro-Ukraine thing come from them. They figured we will send these women, you know, the kinds of things they say, brothers, we must band together to protect the Aryan woman, and this kind of crap. And it's a way to derail the anti-war sentiment of the hard right against regime.

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I don't know if you think that's plausible. I'm sure it's entirely possible and I know to your point I know that Department of State and these affiliated NGOs that are foreign policy oriented they've they've kind of finally after 20 years figured out that they've got a wage the information war online and there's all kinds of people trying to monkey-wrench social media to sabotage our own discourse as well as the steer public opinion towards their own perspective yes yeah I I don't find it hard to believe at all. I'm constantly harassed by bizarre people who seem to be, it's not so much that they seem insincere as that it seems overly polished and scripted. Some of these I assume are just people screwing with me because they don't like me or what I say,

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but a lot of them, yeah, I'm sure it's exactly what you just dropped. I leave the example of Johnson because I think whatever I think of him and his jive, I think he's a sincere guy, and the people who follow him, that's their view, that's unfortunate but Johnson has always been nice to me he seemed like nice guy yeah personally dealt with him I you know but like I said I I strongly disagree with his takes on these things and I don't but he's not a liar and he's not he's not some guy trying to monkey around stuff but yeah I Spencer absolutely is or he's just you know some or just some guy yes the alternative right born in a gay bar with Dickie Spencer and you had an amazing tweet on this before Thomas. Yeah, I was trying not to be too overtly mean, but yeah, fair enough.

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I won't run from that because I said it, but yeah, I agree with you, man. I'm just thinking aloud. I didn't mean to ramble. No, I'm pretty right, man. Well, look, I mean, I don't know. For the people who are genuine and honest about this, I wrote something recent, I will keep writing something. I hope we can persuade them that enemy is who is in charge now of Brussels or Washington and Paris and if Putler, whatever his chimp nature, he doesn't need to be a friend, if he throw a monkey into their plans, this is good on my end. I don't know. Oh yeah, I agree 100%. It's got nothing to do with anybody. I don't love or hate the Russians, but no matter how anybody feels about them, that's not the point. That's what I'm always trying to emphasize. Yeah, I agree 100%. Yes.

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Thomas, I don't want to keep you. It's time for more coffees for me as well now. It's a pleasure to have you on. Let's talk again soon, long show, perhaps we talk Heidegger and such thing. What do you say? Yeah, definitely, my friend. It was great to reconnect with you. It is great to have you, Thomas. Let's talk soon. Putler and until next time all right my friends direct from Moscow Russians with attitude podcast as they've been on this show before and they are live tweeting quite amazing thing from Russia sources with direct video welcome to the show sim main bratim salaam hello yes yes welcome to show so it's amazing events Very exciting what what going on of what your opinion about what's happening now in Ukraine? Well, there's war yes, yes, yes, but what

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What is mood in Russia? What's happening? Oh? Well, it's kind of difficult it's a lot similar to But I guess not that many people believed in an invasion to start with so it came off as a surprise to us also So people were just believe bewildered and surprised that it actually happened because there was no propaganda Leading up to it. No information at all. Basically all the Russian officials just mocked the idea of an invasion and So, yeah, it was surprising, and only now they provided some justification for those people who haven't followed the Donbas conflict. Yes. But why do you think Putin did this? I mean, because you were on the show last time, you did not believe that there would be war. Why, why do you think he did this? Why?

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Well, I think, well, yes, that we have to admit that our predictions were completely wrong on this count. Yes. And Karlin was right and Nemitz was right. I think the reason why he explained the reasons in his speech, in the address to the nation, which we live tweeted, the justification he's bringing forward is that Ukraine is not a sovereign state. It is a puppet regime of America that is controlled through Western NGOs and exists only to loot the country and oppress the Russians, the ethnic Russians in the country, and to be a stage for NATO weapons and troops. And to prevent this, it has been decided to remove the current Ukrainian regime. Yes, but he believed this before and I mean, I am not asking this to attack you. I just want to understand

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You had an assessment. He would not but he did why did I'm not asking why you were wrong But but what you think he actually went forward with it It's hard to say really what exactly made him do it at this point I guess there is either there was some kind of Intel that he got about imminent developments or he probably thought that it was the last chance and in the future even in one year Ukraine will be far gone so that's probably it but you better ask him personally why did he do it I also know advocates I also think that is maybe in part more motivated by this is getting into like Naomi psychoanalysis level which I usually don't like but I think that he might feel some degree of shame for not intervening back in 2014 yes I see your

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account I don't remember of what follower account it was at a few days ago if it was 5,000. Last I checked it's over 33,000, maybe it's probably more now. There's enormous interest obviously in these events and you are a unique account because you post raw, you know, to use spook speak to make fun of these state department people, you post raw humans, you post raw data, raw video, nobody else does this. A lot of interest so it is good that that you provide this information. So it grew by several fold over just in two or three days. Is that correct? And what kind of response are you getting from people in your replies and so on? Yes, so yes, I am completely like dumbfounded by the growth. So we have grown six fold within four days. So before the war, we had just reached 7,000

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And now we're approaching 37,000, so 30,000 new people, which is pretty insane. And I guess it's because, well, we've been live-tweeting the whole stuff, and I don't know why. I mean, the Western American media establishment has a bunch of native Russian speakers and stuff, and I have no idea why they can't just, like, live-translate as we do. I guess, I don't know what the point. Maybe they don't want to. I don't know but we've been trying to provide as much raw facts as is possible and present just like neutral and objective information with lots of video footage and photos and stuff like this and not what the western media has been doing which is the biggest psyop I have ever seen in my life this is literally worse than the Iraq war I mean I don't know

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how much you have followed Western reporting, but it's completely insane. They are talking about 5,000 dead Russians in one day, hundreds of tanks destroyed, the Ghost of Kyiv fake, the Snake Island fake. I have never seen this before. It's just total info war. Yes, it's insane. First of all, are people in Russia aware of this American media insanity? Second of all, what are they saying about it? Yes, they are aware because Ukrainian media is of course doing the same, even more insane, and the liberal pro-Ukrainian media in Russia is also translating this all in real time. So the shit-lips in Russia are also convinced that the Russian army is currently suffering defeat after defeat yes and yeah people are i mean the lips of course they are mad but there aren't

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that many of them i guess there are more people who are worried about the economic ratifications of the sanctions and such you know exactly yes it's not i mean i there are not many people who disagree on principle with the war right but there are many people who are just scared what will happen to them and their economic plans and their future the families and so on just because of what the west might do in response to russia's economy yes i i want to ask both of you about that in particular in a moment but what uh do you check your replies on twitter i am curious about this what kind of engagement are you getting is it mostly hostile is it friendly what are people saying there are a lot of weird new accounts though uh registered in february

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and they're all posting sketchy shit so yes like what i mean a pro ukrainian mostly but not always yeah but he will probably do check replace yes i do i and i try to answer people um there are So I would say there are like three main categories of people in our replies. The first one is a mix of four, I'd say. The first one is just like yuki psyops people, I guess, who are just posting like fake psyop things in our replies all day. The second one is normal Ukrainians and Western citizens who are extremely pro-Ukrainian. I had like liberal and conservative blue checks from America getting really mad in our replies. Then there are people who are already extremely sympathetic to the Russian cause like right-wingers and communists

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in Western countries, Serbians, who post a lot of very aggressive support. Latino tankies. Yes, yes, Latino tankies. I have so many Spanish replies. Spanish or South American? Because as you may know, a lot of South Americans are either neutral or they are for putler. Yes, I think it's mostly South American. I think it's mostly South American. Many messages from Brazil and Argentina I'm getting. And the fourth category is, I think, the largest. I would say it's about maybe 30%. It's just people who are curious, because what we are posting is extremely different from what they see in Western media is more or less the opposite you know because western media and normal people are not exposed to non-mainstream media so

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all that so everything they're getting is that the ukrainian army is just destroying hundreds of tanks every single day and and like trust the plan putler arrested and executed and stuff like this and so they get curious when they see our reporting and they ask a lot of questions which I try to answer as much as possible and stuff like this but we're getting really a lot of support and I'm really happy about this and I'm humbled by the amount of support we're getting and I'm proud of the work we're doing which is I mean of course we are very biased in favor of Russia. We don't want the Russian army in the field to be defeated and stuff like this. But if it happens, we will report on it. Yes. Yes. No, this is very good. I want to ask you then about the measures you just mentioned.

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Russia supposedly being removed from SWIFT. By the way, regarding the progress of the war, as we are recording this, it's about 9 p.m. London time. Last I checked was news was about an hour or so ago and Klitschko, mayor of Kiev, was saying Kiev is surrounded and people were remarking on the absurdity of the propaganda reporting in Western media that you just talked about juxtaposed to this Klitschko saying, yeah, well, Kiev is now surrounded. Do you know that I think he might be exaggerating. I think he's just trying to find the justification for why they are not evacuating civilians. Because as you've probably seen, the Ukrainian army is using civilians as human shields. Well, what's amazing to me is that, yes.

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And I think they are just, from what I hear from the Russian side, Kiev is not yet completely in circle. I understand. I think Klitschko is just trying to justify why they are not doing anything to help the civilians escape. I mean, I'm surprised, because I'm not surprised by Zelensky, who did not even speak Ukrainian, he pretend to, and he's just a foreign puppet comedian installed to be the looter of that country as far as I can tell. But Klitschko, he is a patriot, is he not? I am surprised he played along with this plan, essentially to use the Ukrainian people to sacrifice them in massacres. They're hoping for a massacre that they can parade in front of Western audiences. Why would Klitschko play along with this?

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Well, assuming he is actually in Kiev, which is not sure, of course, he might be in Lvov already, we don't know for sure. but assuming he is in Kiev, he is surrounded by the people, like by the Zelensky administration and the Yuki military who are fanatically trying to orchestrate what you've been talking about. In other cities, it's different. Already two days ago, the mayor of Kharkov, where heavy fighting is now occurring and Russian troops are fighting in the city, the mayor of Kharkov has said that, in an address to the citizens. He has said that the city has to negotiate with Russian forces to protect civilian lives and reach some kind of agreement. And this has also happened in many other cities, in Meditopol, in Berdyansk, in Kupyansk.

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The mayors have been cooperating with Russian forces and in the cities of Berdyansk and Kupyansk, it's general Russian strategy in Eastern Ukraine to leave the city administration in place. and just make a deal with the mayor or just reach an agreement. And in many cities, Russian soldiers are patrolling the cities together with local police. So they're encountering not a lot of resistance. Basically, outside of the Ukrainian military, there is no real resistance. No crazy partisans and guerrilla fighters like Western media would like to see. It's such a misrepresentation of what a guerrilla fighter is. These people think a guerrilla fighter, I mean, Hitler arming 12-year-old boys with anti-tank, that was not guerrilla fighting. That was insane.

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And that's essentially what Kiev government is trying to do now. A guerrilla fighter is a trained somebody who has already knows the mountains, the forest, the countryside. is not some grandmother with a mullet of cocktail. This to me seems just so insane that people are accepting that that's what a guerrilla fighter supposedly is. Yes, I think the biggest question right now is if the Ukrainian leadership actually believes in this or if they are stupid enough to believe this or if they are really just doing it to make wine moms in America feel good. Yes. Look, a slight change of topic. You brought up the economic sanctions. I heard two different things. One is Russia's removal from SWIFT, which everyone is talking about, but other people

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are saying it's just selective and it's banks that were already targeted. But I heard a second rumor that Russia has $440 billion, that's about half a trillion in foreign reserves, that were being saved up specifically for such a rainy day, but that Russia now will not be able to access those funds, which to me would seem to require Putler some type of strong response. I mean, that comes close to act of war. I am afraid of what will happen next, because what will he do, will he escalate? Is that even true? Do you have any information about these events? And also, what has there been any economic effects felt yet in Russia? So the last I heard was about SWIFT removal, yes, it's the latest I've heard. I don't know, maybe they've changed something or they are going to change it soon.

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But last I heard they wanted to, just like you said, to remove from SWIFT only the banks that are already targeted by sanctions. And the sanctions have been chosen specifically to not touch Russian energy exports. So from what I understand, the SWIFT removal will not touch energy exports either. So that's the last information I've heard. And regarding the foreign reserves, I think I just saw a post – I think it was Barrell from European Union who said that a very large part of the foreign reserves cannot actually be reached by Western sanctions because it's in China and countries like this. And I'm not sure how that will play out, but I agree that seizing these investments is – or freezing, as they are saying, but it's basically just stealing them – it

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is dangerously close to an act of war. And I am – I think there will probably be some kind of response to this. Putler has today given orders to put nuclear weapons on high alert. I think this is in response to Zelensky inviting NATO soldiers into the country. I'm already seeing rumors and photographs of Western mercenaries appearing in Ukraine. They might be fake. I don't know. I have no confirmation. It's just rumors. Since 2019, on this show, I predicted in 2019, Kirill and Pigdog, I predicted that the 10th Bulldike paratrooper battalion, the 10th Kamela Bulldike battalion will get exterminated outside of Kiev in 2022. prediction dangerously close to becoming true. I wonder how far will they take it if America

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has its 1871 moment? Will this so-called regime in America recover from a humiliating defeat? I don't know. Well, I doubt that they will engage in an open war with Russia. Yeah. Yeah, maybe this foreign legion will be made up of this warlike dykes But I don't know we'll see I heard to us I heard that Denmark actually allowed its citizens to fight for Ukraine in the four years that British That's a very easy Well, this would be like the transsexual blue division, you know But who knows what will happen? I don't know if open war is going to happen. Regarding economic warfare, has anyone in Russia been talking about what if Russia cut off oil access, gas access to Europe? How will it affect Europe? I think it will crush the world economy, but who knows?

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I mean, I think if Russia were to completely cut out energy exports right now, I think there would be civil war in the West within two weeks. Well, at least in Europe, because the U.S. will be just fine. Well, yes, yes, in Europe, of course, not in America. Yes, I want to ask you, you have seen a response online, a response in Europe. What do you make of this fact that the so-called far-right, hard-right, including many European nationalists, are so set on the side of Ukraine and invoking World War II-type rhetoric about Oriental, despotic, Bolshevist hordes attacking the pure Aryan womanhood of Ukraine? This is a bit surprising to me, you know, Dickie Spencer, I mentioned this to Thomas, I interviewed him recently, I asked him the same question. What do you make of this?

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Dickie Spencer, supposed big white nationalist, dissident right, so-called, and yet when it comes to conflict with Russia, they all get behind State Department, ZOG, D.C. propaganda. What do you make of this? I think it was always the case and this unholy union of America and some far-right types, extremists in some countries like, say, Croatia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc., etc., South American rightists, a lot of them are somehow connected to America and they get along just fine when they have the same goals. But what's more interesting to me is that some CNN and MSNBC, whatever, reporters started using some racist rhetoric. For example, I heard some woman, I think she works for CNN, and she talks that, yes, Europe must take in a lot of Ukrainian

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refugees because they're white and that was like it came out of nowhere and you know yeah so well i think you saw steve sailor remarks that uh sweden's uh matriarch said that they will not accept uh ukrainian um to the same extent they accepted syrians in 2015 and steve sailor you know he likes he knows how to drive in the rhetorical knife he said uh sweden will not be accepting uh live, blonde Ukrainian women to the same extent it accepted military-age Syrian men in 2015. The words of Sweden's matriarch government. What do you think of this? Yes. What happened? Is Zog interfering with our... I mean, I think the main thing is that the West doesn't really care about Ukraine. It's all rhetoric. They have different goals in mind for Ukraine. They don't really care

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about Ukrainian people, as it's obvious, Putin, I don't know how true this is, but Putin has said that the tactic that the Ukrainian military is using, you know, placing artillery next to schools and using civilians as human shields, that this has been, that this is coming from American advisors to the Ukrainian government. This is what Putin has said. I wouldn't be surprised, yes, I would not be surprised. But I wanted to ask you, so I must press on this question, because the three of us have been in these online circles for many years. I've known both of you for quite some years, big dog, I think I've known you for seven years or longer now. Some of these people online are new, weird accounts, like you say.

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A lot of the so-called feminist, racist accounts are fake, I don't want to get into that. But some of them are people we've known a long time. We neem together with them against these corrupt governments that flood their own nations with the trash of the world, that promote transsexualism, and so forth. And we know who the enemy is. The enemy is the people in control of DC government and of the European West, European governments. And I'm not saying they need to jump on and cheer Putler. They can be skeptical of Putin. They can be aware of Russia's history in East Europe and so forth. That's fine. But what do you make of some of these people, apparently, sincerely promoting this idea that, oh, yes, we need to help Ukraine because they are our white brothers and Russia?

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It's just bizarre to me. I'm not being rhetorical. It's just bizarre that people who we've been tweeting and being friends with and we make, we were a meme laboratories or with some European nationalist friends and all of a sudden that all flies out the window. They are suddenly on the side of these Western governments who are locking them in their houses, taking their rights away, taking their, not allowing them to speak, taking their bank accounts away. What do you make of this? Some of them probably like the spicy Nazi battalions, and others just such an unsighted, one-sided informational border, so that Russian site is actually not present. So yeah, if you don't have much of a conviction on that matter, there's really no site, no reason to support the Russian site, I think.

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But Ukraine also is the perfect underdog, like, if you view it from the Western lens. So yes, I think it's typical and nothing surprising about it at all. Yes. Well, I mean, you know, I would have second questions also, if government of Ukraine actually was a zoz battalion. And they said, we are picking the Heidegger position where Moscow and Washington DC are are metaphysically the same, and we are a free European state standing against both, that would be very different. But when you have Pussy Riot and Ukrainian state propaganda about mulatto child soldiers, this becomes something else. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but what you're saying is very idealistic, but it's not physically possible. there can be no, there are only two sides. There is pro-NWO great reset

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and there is anti-NWO great reset and everyone has to kind of pick a side in this great spiritual struggle all the time. Yes, I agree with you actually. I'm just saying if it was the case that Ukraine was this, but Ukraine is just a staging ground right now, the obviously owned government and the issue is NATO membership. It's not the fact that Russia wants to rape Ukrainian women. I just don't understand how some online, so-called right-wing dissidents and Dickie Spencer go around saying that they are for Ukraine, but they are also against the so-called ZOG or NWO is bizarre to me. Well, it's Russia's fault as well, because literally there was nothing before invasion started, nothing from the Russian side. And look, get this, we are not paid still to this day,

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not paid ruble from the government. And I think it's actually speaks of absolute incompetence of Russian government, because just imagine if we were some US shills, would we not get huge amounts of money from Lockheed, whatever, Raytheon, right? We would be just swimming in cash. But in Russia, no one cares because Russian government is incredibly inept and in for worse and it always was and probably always will be. So it's only for idealist types and the autists and the Russians themselves, of course. Yes. Well, no, please continue your efforts then to inform frogs and other friends and not just frogs, but I am obviously concerned. It's no surprise that the GOP leadership is banging their head like wallbanger Sean Kennedy for war. That's to be expected.

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But I hope not to see the MAGA people and the Trump people with blood foaming around their mouths wanting war. I don't want it to get to that. So the more we can explain to them what really happened in Ukraine, Russia, the better. But I know you're both very busy, I don't want to keep you too long. I want to ask you what you think next. What are short-term predictions? What do you think will happen soon? It's really hard and there are actually a couple of scenarios or maybe a dozen of scenarios. It's really uncertain. But the most like sober prediction and probably I will be downplaying it very harshly. But yeah, if you are to believe that there will be no major escalation between the West and Russia, militarily I mean, then maybe Russia will be able to strong arm Ukraine

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into negotiation process and Lugansk and Donetsk will, with its full borders by constitution, will become independent states. But considering that Zelensky is really a puppet and he might be in Lvov, he might be in Poland, he might be in Brooklyn right now, right? And being held hostage by the Congolese woman. So we really don't know the level of sovereignty and authority that Zelensky now presents. So, yeah. And he quite literally doesn't care about the lives of Ukrainian people. So, but if he was really an actual sitting president, then this is my most realistic prediction. But yeah, we'll see. What about Ukraine? Yes, I agree. I mean, strategically it's... I don't want to be trashed, but there is currently a huge encirclement on the way in Donbas,

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which might be – it's not sure that it will work out, but it might be completed soon. And if it works, then basically all the best-equipped and so on best-supplied troops in the Ukrainian army will be completely encircled. The Russian troops have broken through the defenses of western Kyiv and are getting ready to enter the city, and it might be over soon. And the political process – I mean, of course, in the morning there will be negotiations, and I think Putin will insist on the terms of demilitarization and the removal of the Zelensky regime, and the political future, I believe that is most likely is new elections being called in Ukraine, maybe a peacekeeping call from the CSTO officially, and Ukraine reentering CSTO, and then have some kind of compromised government, and then maybe in

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In the future, there will be more referendums about regions in Ukraine seeding to Russia. I think this is the story. I mean, it has been made extremely clear that an ongoing occupation will not happen, it's not planned. The goal of the operation is explicitly to remove the current regime and to destroy pro-Western military assets. Do you think it's a lot similar to what happened in Georgia then? Because I remember there also Georgian military was goaded by the West to shell Russia troops. Russia invaded. And I think it was Condi Rice say, in our century, nations don't invade other nations while American troops are still in Iraq. But she said this, and am I wrong to, at least for me, for outsider who doesn't know as much, it seems very similar situation.

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And in that sense, will Zelensky end up like that guy from Georgia in Williamsburg doing, yeah, Saakashvili in Williamsburg with the burger nitro called Brew, hipster burger style, special mayonnaise sauce. Well, I think the magnitude of the psyops and the support for Ukraine are like X 100, that Georgia enjoyed so at the time you Americans really didn't know that Georgia was a country and Ukraine is now for the last eight years every single day someone was educating the Americans that it's completely real and valid and it's an American ally for some reason so yeah I think that Zelensky will not give up that easily and it will be much harder than with Georgia or Saakashvili and Ukraine is much bigger country with a much bigger army and etc.

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Yes, I mean we have to keep in mind that Ukraine is a 40 million strong country with an army of 200 000 the size of taxes. It's not some kind of small Caucasus state that you can cross on car in one hour. Yes, yes, I see. Do you think any danger that the cretins, the fanatical cretins running a United States establishment might do something crazy like a no-fly zone or something that could actually lead to direct conflict between... I mean, they have already announced from what I see in many sources, AFP has reported this, that the EU will send fighter jets to Ukraine. I am not sure how the logistics of this are supposed to work out since I don't know how which planes they would send because of course in Ukraine there is no one who can fly a Euro

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fighter so they will probably send like Romanian mix but there are not many airfields left intact in Ukraine and I don't know how they would even get the fighter jets there or if they will send also instructors and pilots, and I think EU sending fighter jets alongside military instructors or even pilots, I think that is pretty much an act of war. Do you think it would escalate to that, open the war between the West and Russia? It's hard to say right now. It's hard to say. I hope for the sake of everyone involved that the Russian offensive will proceed as quickly as it has been, and things will be finished before the West can whip itself into a fanatical frenzy and declare war on Russia. Yes. Well, look, if that does happen, I invite both of you to the coastline or the mountains

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of Colombia or Venezuela, where we can stay under the shade and observe the lost Negrito tribes hiding there in the mountains. And we can discuss philosophy and literature, which I know are your special interests. But now we are being deluged with these events. But I hope the two of you can come and show Caribbeanarism again soon and we can discuss some unusual history matters again. What do you think? Sure. I would be glad that if it will be all over like tomorrow and I wake up and there is a Russian flag in Kiev no more bloodshed because I actually care about Ukrainians and I believe almost all of Russians do yes of course I mean no one wants huge bloodshed in Ukraine no no absolutely no one wants that except for some except

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for the West yeah yeah the pants the pants of sake ones that I guarantee you You know, agitate and tell Ukrainians to throw a mold of cocktails and kill invaders. This is, yeah. You know, Bob, the most disgusting thing I have seen in our replies on Twitter during the war reporting has been some kind of obese woman from Tennessee, I believe, who her bio said that she had been writing for the bulwark and is an author, is a Christian conservative also of Christian books, and she was talking about how important it is for Ukrainian civilians to attack Russian tanks with Molotov cocktails. It's just evil, in my opinion. What the hell? Why would you sit somewhere in America, in your comfy chair, and tell random Ukrainian civilians to die in suicide attacks, like what the hell man?

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Yes, in that case, I think motivation could be quite dark. I think Mollbug was correct to come up with this concept of kumar politic. But in that kind of person or obese AWFL woman, I think actually they get a sexual rise out of this. It's very dark stuff, you know? Yes. Yeah, it's like... It's a kind of replacement. you know, their dog has not fucked them in two weeks and they do this displacement for political blood, you know. It's like true crime, theories, yeah. Yes, I try, just now I made a tweet asking people, you know, don't you feel responsible when you go others on to die and you know you will not go to help and you actually know your government will not really do anything to help and you're

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asking them to die ostentatiously. It seems sick to me, it's sick, but I don't know. I mean, I'm agreeing with what you just said, but look, I don't want to keep you much longer. What you say, we continue next time, and hopefully about lighter and more pleasant matters. Yeah, for sure. Thank you for your invitation. No, thank you both for coming, and I share with you the wish to see a Russia victory, and Russia a bloodless victory. I hope Ukrainian frauds have deserted and not put their life at risk for Zelensky and this regime and I hope to see like you Russia triumph over the pretensions of Zog and its ambitions in Europe. God willing. God willing, yes. Very good. God willing. Very good. Hal Puthler and until next time then. Goodbye. Caribbean tourism episode 102. Again,

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and this is Emergency Russia Conflict Broadcast. I have for you show on today small black cat, military expert to talk emergency situation. Welcome to the show, small black cat. So, so how are you? I'm fantastic. It's a pleasure to be back on the show here, Pat. Yes, it's a pleasure to have you back and what you make of this mess in Russia, Ukraine is very exciting, people cannot talk. I've not been online for the last two or three hours, but last I knew, the Russians were encircling Kiev and Kharkov, is this, I don't know, but what you make of what's happening? Well, it's certainly very exciting. It's made the timeline much more interesting to read, especially for someone with my interest. I think the Russian advances right now are of quite significant effect.

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We can get into the tactical on the operational level stuff here in a minute, but needless to say, I'm very optimistic on the Russian advance here into the Ukraine. Yes. You say optimistic, so I mean, you are biased for Russia, like I am then. Why you support, or you're just using that in an objective sense? But where do you stand on this? I mean, you don't have to say, I know we are being watched. I think Russia's demands before this happened were quite reasonable, they do not want Ukraine to join NATO, but maybe Russia not explaining so well its position to the world and instead there's this avalanche of propaganda from other side. I don't know what you think or if you want to comment on that. Well, I'll say this, I'll make no bones about it. I'm a fan of Putin himself.

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I've been a fan of Putin for a long time. I think he's the most interesting man in the world right now and has been for a while. So as a Number one top Putin respecter I am optimistic that his power plays here in the Ukraine using his military in a way that he has Will go well for him and achieve, you know what he is trying to do for himself and for the country But you said here in the Ukraine you are right now stationed in Odessa or Ismail. Is this correct? Oh, I said too much. I cannot speak further. Yes. Well, sorry to interrupt, but yes, go on. Why you think Putin is right here? I have asked this question to other friends of show off and on for some time. I am very clear on this is because he is only one to stand effectively against what all of you call global homo.

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And I thought many of you mamzers were serious when you called it global homos that you saw the governments of United States and of West Europe as your adversary, because they are the ones destroying lives of millions of their own citizens through mass immigration, deindustrialization, and idiotic wars such as the one they are ginning for here. But so-so, it seems to me, many of, certainly at CPEC today, the so-called conservative Mossad conference going on somewhere and also, but unfortunately, among some of the so-called dissident right, they are all hacked for so-called Ukraine. I don't know what you think of this. Well, what's interesting about this war and the interpretation of it on the right is probably

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more than any other circumstance in recent memory, psychological warfare has been at at play almost from the very beginning. And many people are infected with brain worms, and they cannot view the situation objectively. They cannot view their own situation objectively. So they have all sorts of strange and overzealous interpretations about the actual military implications and the global implications of Putin's actions. I'll say my perspective on it is this. The globalist occupational regime that exists throughout the West, centered in the United States, is built on the framework of the threat of hard military power. It's built on this myth of NATO, particularly American, military invincibility. And Putin's actions basically spit in the face of this assessment.

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He does not care about threats of NATO intervention because no such threat can really materialize. The militaries of the West have been rotten through the core and are functionally inept. So he can play how he likes in the Ukraine, and all they can do is cry on Twitter about it. Yes. Yes, I think. What do you mean when you say they are inept? I've seen you say this before, that they would actually lose any confrontation head-on with certainly a Russian army, but even with some others. Well, I'm not the only one to mention this, and many people take different perspectives on Western military capabilities. Fundamentally, my perspective is this. When you look at the matter of equipment or numbers or technology or even the morale of

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the average fighting man, you can spin it whichever way you like, but fundamentally in warfare, the most important thing is decision making and the people who make the decisions. And in that regard, we couldn't have a worse cadre of decision makers in the West. They are old, they are fools, and they have no idea what to do if a perfect opportunity was right in front of them. So if a military engagement, any military engagement, were to occur under the command of the people that are in charge of Western militaries, it would fail simply from the idiocy of the people leading the military. Yes. Yes. I mean, people have seen repeatedly Afghanistan, Iraq failures, and so forth, but then they would say, well, that was different because it was against insurgency and also because

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Americans didn't really care about winning those wars, but that they would win a major World War II-type confrontation because they care about that. I don't know. That's what they would say. Well, they would say a lot of things. Like I said, many people have different perspectives on the problems with Western military power. But, and there are many problems, as I mentioned, but really, fundamentally, they're just excuses and cope. They say, well, we would win in this conflict, even though we lost in all these others, and I don't see any real evidence for that. People forget that Putler actually did quite well when he went into Syria. No, I mean Trump take credit to some maybe he should for destruction of Isis, but actually Russia initiated that

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Yes, the Syrian conflict is a good example of Russian military power and Russian military decision-making Also, it's a very great example of Putin's wise geopolitical maneuvering. In Syria, when the Russians intervened, the Assad regime was on the back foot. It was not performing very well, and I should say the Assad government, because it is the legitimate and honorable government of Syria. Yes, the line of Damascus. Yes, I have great respect for him as well. He's another one of my favorite world leaders. But, as I said, in that conflict, during the civil war, right before the Russians intervened, the Syrian government was not doing so well. They had fought bravely, of course, but they had many enemies of many

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different stripes and quite a lot of Western powers stood opposed to them. And when Putin intervened in the way that he did, it sort of turned things around for the Syrian government and that Syrian government still stands today. And I think not enough people give credit to Putin's actions in that region when it comes to stabilizing it for Syria and the Syrian people and eliminating threats to the whole world. The Christians of the Middle East, of Syria, and of Lebanon, they see Putin as a kind of neo-Byzantine emperor, as a protector of the Christians and a savior of the Christians in their area, who had been basically ethnically cleansed over the last, what is it, since Gulf War I, actually, but they've been ethnically cleansed from the area where they had lived thousands of years.

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And finally, because of Putler's action, he saved Assad's government, which whatever people may think of Assad, he is the protector, I think, of what is it, a million and a half Christians who would all get slaughtered by the Sunnis. That's why one of, well, people say Putin intervened because he has a naval base there, yes, but the Christians of that whole area are very grateful to him. Yes, it's interesting, the Byzantine emperor perspective. you know, the third Rome as it stands on Moscow. I've seen images heavily redacted, but all I can make out was Operation Belisarius and what that might mean, but I say too much again. No, I believe this for the future. And actually, some people say perhaps there should be a re-establishment of some type of Byzantine empire

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where the Orthodox countries, but these are dreams, these are dreams. I'm saying right now one of the churches, for example, of Lebanon, one of the Christian churches. There are the Maronites. People know about them. But then there are also the Melkites, which come from the Hebrew or Semitic word melekh, which means king. So traditionally the Christians of the Middle East were called Melkites, the king's men, meaning that they were under protection of the Byzantine emperor. And this is how they see Putin now, as a kind of neo-protector. This just so audience understands, it isn't out of sheer perversity that many of us on the right admire Putin. He did many important things, such as save the lives and communities of millions of Christians

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in the Middle East, all while your ZAG government is basically ethnically cleansing its own Midwest with despair, deindustrialization, mass immigration and fentanyl poisoning, among many other kinds of poisoning. Maybe you should reassess who your adversaries are. That's a friendly message, so that I'm sending to, let's say, conservatives and so-called dissident right who dislike Putin in good faith. I'm sure there's a lot of bad faith NGO activity also. But I want to return, I don't know if you think anything about that, feel free to interject, but I wanted to ask you about this incompetence of American decision makers, would you care to comment a bit more on that? Yes. In war, things never quite go as planned.

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And as soon as operations are underway, you have to react to the situation on the ground. And when that occurs, you can't hope and you can't pray, you have to act. You have to make strong and sometimes very hard decisions to take advantage of whatever the circumstances may be at the time. Very often, and this war is a great example of that, even with the proliferation of social media and first-hand accounting, the fog of war is very deep and very thick. It's very hard to determine what is really going on, especially when there is such intense psychological operations occurring every second. So sometimes you have to act without all of the information available to you. You have to trust your gut. You have to think what would be the best thing to do if XYZ scenario, even if you cannot

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predict what the enemy will do or even where the enemy is. And that takes genius to do it perfectly well, and there's been very few military geniuses in history, but to do it competently still takes quite a bit of intelligence, quite a bit of cleverness, and a fair amount of luck as well. And I think those qualities are absolutely absent from Western military leadership. What do you think is short-term possible outcome of what's going on now? Before I ask you some more about Soviet military doctrine, which I know you have quite a few opinions about the continuation of those traditions into modern Russian practice. But before we talk, I just want to ask you, how do you think this might turn out in short and medium term?

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Well, short term, it's difficult to say because Putin has made his demands clear on the Ukrainian people and what he expects of them and all that he wants from this war. And they're very reasonable, you know, the independence of eastern regions, the demilitarization and their refusal to join NATO, essentially just guarantees of security on the southern Russian border from Ukraine, which were under severe threat from NATO expansionism. And I think these are all very reasonable things to ask of the nation, and certainly not too onerous to put on the Ukrainian people. And I think Putin will achieve these things, but it is difficult to think what will be gained when peace talks are underway and the treaties are signed.

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A lot of people have speculations about some sort of a partition of the Eastern and Western Ukraine and other things, puppet regimes, that sort of thing. But that I can't really speak to. We won't know that until the peacemakers sit down and hammer out a real treaty, and it's signed by both parties. Medium term, though, I think what we will see is a realization of other nations, particularly the more stronger nations in the world, that this so-called Pax Americana, where borders borders were frozen and nobody was allowed to pursue their own interests out of fear of some sort of American retaliation no longer exists and nations will begin to operate in a multi-polar geopolitical space and we'll see basically down the list of nations weaker than Russia you know Russia's

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ability to take action in Ukraine is a result of them being basically the strongest power in the world, outside of so-called American power. And now that that has been shattered, that illusion of, you know, the threat of American military power has been shattered, other nations will start to say, maybe I have a shot here, I can pursue my own interests. Yes. Do you think that to stop this from happening, or for any other reasons, the leadership who you think are stupid, and I agree, they're cretins, but I also think they're fanatics. Do you think there's a danger they could actually take the world to war or some type of direct confrontation between them and Russia, the EU and Russia or America and Russia?

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Well, I certainly think that they are fanatic and they are stupid enough to try such a thing. But at the same time, I think their own internal problems in this nation, the political strife that's occurring in the West right now, as a result of their own actions, has weakened their ability to make these sort of demands and take the nation to war, or any Western nation to war. So I doubt that they will commit themselves to such a ludicrous idea of engaging in a world war against Russia. I think right now, really, they're licking their wounds because they've been made fools of by Russians. Yes, yes, I see. Well, I hope you're right that they won't take the extra step. I'm not sure. When you have pantsuits like Hillary who everyone maybe remembers what she did when Gaddafi,

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she laughed like a witch saying, we came, we saw, he died, and laughed like a witch. Very outrageous sadistic woman. When you have people like that who are driven by fanatical rage, by bloodlust, by desire to prove themselves, I like to remind people there are State Department officials who are unironically challenging Putin to judo match because this idea that you have to prove your your manhood, you have to prove your power, is very, very it's a deep psychological dysfunction of American so-called elite as a whole, but especially the people who go in government, which everyone knows Washington, D.C. is hollyweird for ugly people, and with all the neuroses that comes with that. And I'm just worried so that they may not be aware they can't win a fight or they may

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even think we will resolve all internal problems by, you know, if we have a war with Putin, our internal problems will go away. I'm concerned about this. Yes, they are a sick and childish group of people that are in charge of the West right now. worldview is informed by the West Wing TV show and holly weird movies about nerds banding together to defeat the jocks. But as we know, that's not reality. That is not how the world works. But no, I'm not so concerned about direct military confrontation. What I think is more likely is the one thing that they do seem competent in doing, which is funding rebels and using the productive capabilities of the Western military apparatus to enhance the capabilities of irregular forces.

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We saw this in Syria, we saw this in Libya, we've seen this all around the world for many decades now, and I think right now in the Ukraine they're openly admitting that this is their plan and this is what they do, and all that is going to do is increase the bloodshed and the suffering of the Ukrainian people. It's not going to win the war, it's not going to change the outcome, but it is going to cause a lot of money to bloodshed. Yes. It's war. It's war by human shield. And it's war, the entire policy of this Alzheimer-Baidan administration is, cries out as he strikes you. That is their motto. And so I guess we know who is running the Alzheimer puppet, Baidan. But let's talk for a moment about the other side.

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So I've seen you talk a little bit about this Soviet military doctrine, how the Soviets were planning to take full the gap in Cold War in Germany, and how some of their strategy from that time, their tactical plans have survived to our time, and how they're using it in Ukraine. I don't know if you want to comment at all about that. Yes, the Soviet military doctrine when it comes to the use of armored forces, you know The main weapon of their military really started before even World War two It started with some thinkers some of which were Purged pretty severely by Stalin but in the course of the Second World War Their ideas came to light and their doctrine basically became the main doctrine of the Soviet military

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This idea of deep battle doctrine or deep strike theory, it goes by many terms, but essentially the idea is an overwhelming armored assault over the entire front that the enemy cannot respond to and cannot adequately defend in all places. And whatever exploits are made in specific areas are further exploited to where essentially you drown the enemy forces with your own armored troops. Now, in particular, what we've seen in the Ukraine, I think, might be a holdover from that. I speculate, because it's very difficult to determine what the force composition of Russian forces are, and the nature of their reserves, and how they intend to use them. Although, from what I can tell, with the sort of operational pause we've seen in the last

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day or so, today being February 27th, it appears that things are going basically along this doctrine. Now this doctrine is built on several things. One of the things the Soviets have done, and now we'll see, I believe, Russia doing, is the use of not their best equipment in the first assault. They send older equipment, sometimes not their best units first, to waste the munitions, to reveal enemy positions, and to essentially cause attrition among enemy forces to deal with this first group. When the first wave doesn't always break through, or it stalls, this is to be expected. This is as planned for the Russians. But once the enemy has sort of revealed their positions, once the enemy has used a fair amount of their own munitions, and they're also very tired from continued engagements

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24-7, the next wave moves in, and the next wave is better equipped, better trained, and able to exploit the weaknesses that have been exposed in the initial assault. And then finally, if it comes to it, the third wave, which is very similar to Russian or to Roman tactics, interestingly enough, with the primarius reforms, you know, you have the velotates, the stadi, and then finally the triarii, you send in your vest, you send in the guard forces, the vest equipped, the newest technology to finish the job. And I think this is what we're seeing play out in Ukraine right now. This initial assault and the ultimatum that was offered to the Ukrainian government was essentially the soft hand. It was the mild engagement to prove a point that we are willing to go full bore to achieve

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what we want here in this region. And since the Ukrainian government, sick and insane and backed by Western powers as they are, have refused those terms, now I think Russia is going to get serious. We're going to see Russian mechanized forces to move on other cities to start encircling them and take control of the population centers. I don't think they're going to start moving directly into the cities so much it won't be a block-to-block urban conflict outside of the outskirts of these cities. But they will encircle them, they will put the squeeze on them, and I think eventually the Ukrainians, if the government themselves does not capitulate, the Ukrainians will demand that this war ends, and the demands of Putin are met. Yes, yes, I hope they can do this

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with as little bloodshed as possible, so because there are Ukrainian friends and frogs, and some of them have written me, and they say, Bapa, we like you, you're too pro-Russian, and this, and I'm not pro-Russian, it's just that he's the only one who stands against my adversary, and your country, Ukraine, has been hijacked basically by the same gang. I apologize again to audience if I'm repeating this too much, but in any case, if Ukraine frauds are listening, I beg you again to not get killed over this. Just you should desert or run away or not fight at all. This is not your war, it's the government of your country is zombie government, you know. Zelensky, this guy, apparently, so he didn't even talk Ukrainian, he came, he's a complete imposter.

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He's just been installed to loot the country dry, you know. Typical globohomo, I don't want to call them globohomo because it's not descriptive enough. It's the people running the government in D.C. and Brussels. They loot countries, they see their job in the world to extract wealth and destroy any enemies they have and negotiate with nobody, you know? Yes, it's a sick thing, you know, I think prior to becoming the president of Ukraine this man was apparently a comedian. Yes. And it seems the joke here is how many Ukrainian lives can I throw away, how many Ukrainians Can I press gang into service to get retweets by Western wine moms? LAPAVITSAS. Yes. You know, this pattern of clown government in the West, I don't know how it can go on.

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You have in United States you have Bill Clinton, who did the saxophone and talk about his underwear. Then you have the simian George W. Bush. When you have Obama, who is some random gay black guy that nobody knows who he is, he has the manner of a librarian, he's married to a gorilla transsexual. When he was elected president in America, Russia, China, India, the rest of the world thought Americans had put a gun to their head and pulled the trigger, because it was so absurd. But it's not just in America, it's part of a pattern that you see with Trudeau with another theater kid with black face in this, or Macron, same thing, he poses with black youth and he has an Arab lover and he's married to an old woman because who knows who has been blackmailing him.

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comedian, as you mentioned now, in Ukraine, it's a complete pattern of rent boys, theater kids, and transsexuals of some kind. I don't want to comment on what Obama was or whatever. But this pattern of clown government, how can this go on in the West? I don't know. Well, it won't go on, and I think we're seeing the first death throes of it here in the Ukraine. I think when you put such sick people in charge and you make the rest of the world kowtow to them, people will not tolerate it for long, and you see that now. You see it in Canada with the uprisings, with the truckers, you've seen it in America for a while now, and you see it all around the world, and it's unfortunate that the Ukrainian people are basically made to be sacrificed for clown government, but Putin's not going

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to tolerate it anymore, obviously. I think many other powers in the world will no longer tolerate such absurdity. Yes, the insanity has to end. And while I am not a fan of Russia historically and I am a fan of Napoleon and then a partial fan of Hitler, an argument could be made from actually the liberal, reasonable point of view that the role of the Russians historically has been to bring Europe back from madness. So Tsar Alexander I, I think, he marched into Paris 1814. That was basically end of the madness of the French Revolution that had thrown Europe into convulsions. Then they did the same to Nazis and so on. Now, look, I don't like that because I actually wish Napoleon or Hitler would have succeeded. But a liberal should like them, no? And I don't know.

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Do you want to comment some more on their plans during the Cold War, because, for example, I mentioned the Fulda Gap, but not everyone in the audience knows even what that is. Yes, the Soviet plans in the Cold War, and before I get into that I'll mention this, it does seem that when Western powers get too overzealous and they try their might with Russia, Russia reacts pretty severely, and it always seems to be the change of eras when that occurs. The end of the French Revolution and this new Westphalian idea of European powers that emerges after Napoleon's defeat in Russia and the same with the Nazis when they tried there. It was a new world after the Russians made their mark. So I think we see this again. This is

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another turning point in history. But the Soviets, as you mentioned, in the Cold War were obviously deeply threatened by the West as well. This is the advent of NATO and not only were they threatened, they had their own ideas of imperialism that they would like to spread communism over the entire world. They were quite aggressive in this actually. So when Germany was partitioned east and west in World War II the Soviets drew up plans for a further expansion into Europe and the border of eastern and western Germany was basically the main front of this Soviet armored forces were going to march across the European plain there and there's an area in central Germany named for the town of Fulda that's there where it's quite advantageous for armored

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spearheads, a folded gap as it was known. This was the greatest concern for NATO military planners. Their defense of Europe hinged on being able to hold this gap. Likewise, for the Russians and the Soviets, their ability to take Europe depended on their ability to push through this area, and basically all military plans on both sides centered on this. The doctrine that I mentioned earlier about these waves of Russian armor and the quality of each wave increasing was basically built in response to NATO military developments, technologically in their armor particularly. Russians couldn't really match the degree of quality, although Russian tanks were quite good that the NATO forces could, particularly in matters of accuracy for their main armaments and the rate of fire for those armaments.

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The idea was that if we cannot necessarily match them in quality we will overwhelm them with quantity and even though the Russian tanks were still quite good, in some periods in the back and forth development of armour technology were better than NATO, but generally the idea was we will overwhelm them with numbers we will force them to waste their munitions we will make them tired and then once they are at their absolute weakest we will push in with our best and their doctrine with mechanized warfare the interconnectivity between armored spearheads with tanks and mechanized units and armored vehicles and others as well as paratroopers behind the line. The VDB we've seen in this war have done quite a bit and this is all basically outlined in Soviet military planning. We see essentially how

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Russian mechanized forces would operate in a conflict today and even back then. Yes, I've seen some people say that the paratroopers are their best infantry, is this true? Well it depends on what you mean by best because like everything else every tool has its purpose and this is true of infantry as well you know some infantry are very good at certain things some are very good at defensives some are very good at you know insertions or assaulting key positions and some are good at more clandestine activity like Spetsnaz but the Soviet paratroopers are quite good both in terms of training and morale and capability and so far from what I can tell their objectives in this war were they accomplished them pretty well. They were able to neutralize several key

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positions the Ukrainians needed to have to provide a strong defense against Russia and enabled Russian forces to operate in ways that they wouldn't have been able to if the Ukrainians held those positions or maintained assets that these paratroopers were able to neutralize. So yes, I think the VDB, the The Russian paratroopers are quite good and should not be underestimated. Yes. When people are reading about this conflict, our small corner of internet and various friends are providing one side, you could call it the pro-Russian view, although we know our own biases and we try to be, excuse me, objective in the information we provide. On the other hand, we are very small corner. The deluge, as you know so-so, has been total propaganda from other side with absurd things

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like Ghost of Kiev, and they have absurd casualty rates for Russians, and so forth. I think when Russia wins, which will probably be soon, the cope and sieve will be through the roof. These people will not understand, because they're being fed complete fantasy about Ukraine's successes and so forth. But leaving aside this propaganda, feel free to comment on it if you want, but leaving this aside, there are also many armchair generals on Twitter and other social media and also article commentary pronouncing on day-to-day events of the war, even though not much really is known of what's going on. Do you have anything to say about this phenomenon of armchair general and so forth? Well, the whole world is tuned into this conflict, and it's very easy for people to get attention

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by looking up Wikipedia articles and citing specific terms that the average normie is not going to understand, and to think, oh, well, this man must know what he's talking about. Yeah. Oh-sink. Oh-sink. Yes, yes. It's funny to see, and anyone with any sort of military historical understanding, or anyone who's delved into military theory or military science can pretty quickly see that these people have no idea what they're talking about. There's very few people I've seen with a good analysis. Sorry if you heard that noise. I think there's a shelly near me, but I digress. I'm afraid. I'll be all right. I'm well defended. My friends here are quite well prepared. Yes, you have so-so, you have various, I know that you have 20 cats, anyway, go on.

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Yes, we are the sadaqar of, well I should not say much further, but they should fear us. I know, Assad sent you, anyway, go on. Anyway, the deluge of misinformation and armchair generalship that we've seen in this conflict is quite humorous to me, but I think it's very unfortunate because many people People don't know military history, they don't take a strong interest in it and they are fed lies or they are interpreting the conflict in the wrong way because of these things. There's been a lot of sort of misinterpretation about the rate of Russian advance. People think that this war in this massive country against a Ukrainian military that is quite sizable, although many have defected or been captured and surrendered.

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think that this was supposed to happen in a day or two and then if it doesn't occur that quickly, Putin must be inept, the Russian military must be broken, they must have spent all of their equipment and ammunition. This is just childish. Any analysis of history shows that wars take time and quite often more time than anyone expects. Yes. So I would caution against that first and foremost is do Do not expect a quick resolution to this conflict outside of a sudden capitulation of the Ukrainian government. But if things have to go to the bitter end, and given the delusions of the Ukrainian government and the Western powers that enabled them, it seems that that might be the case. This war is going to take some time.

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But even in the context of that, with a sober analysis of the time frame, the Russians are doing quite well. They're advancing quite quickly. than you would expect given what they're up against. So I think that's the first thing to take away. And always when you read reports or you see videos, be very skeptical. It's a very confusing and complicated conflict and there are so many interests involved trying to sell you something. So take information you receive about current events or casualty rights or movements here or there with a hefty grain of salt. Yes. Soso, I know you are busy and planning various invasions and so forth that you cannot talk. I did want to ask you one more question if you have time. Regarding historical matter, I again am not a fan of Russia too much in history.

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I'm interested in their history, and I I like their music and literature very much, but I am for Napoleon, I'm not for Russia. On the other hand, their military practices are very interesting, right? I mean, you have to study them. Do you have any favorite or very interesting Russian generals from any era of history you like? I was thinking the other day of Zhukov. He is the man who really ended World War II. He captured Berlin, the Battle of Berlin, I think, took about two weeks, and the Russians sacrificed 35,000 men, correct me if I'm wrong, in doing this. I do not think such things we will see in Europe again. People on neither side have the energy for that, and the stakes aren't what they were. But do you admire Zhukov or any other Soviet general? Do you find any interesting?

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Do you want to say anything about that in closing? Well, in closing, you know, I am a big fan of Zhukov. I think he's quite a good general. But if I had to pick a favorite Russian general, for me, it's got to be the Count Suvorov. His exploits in the Russo-Turko war and against Poland, you know, he's within Russia seen as their best military commander. He was a true genius. It's quite often sort of a hallmark or an interpretation of Russian military tactics, of the human wave, of expending men for the objective, whatever the cost. But Surovov, he did not do this. He was very good at winning battles against much larger opponents with minimal casualties. When he fights the French with the Russo-Austrian army, he

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to minimize Russian casualties and was able to have a great effect in the Seven Years' War without needless expense of lives, and to me that is the hallmark of true generalship, of military genius, to do the most with the least for the most minimal cost. So yes, that's my man if you have to pick a Russian general for me. Yes, Suboro, very nice, and I would hope that revived Russia, revived Byzantine Confederation perhaps, can retake, one day, Constantinople? What do you think so-so? Yes, I've seen the plans, as I said. There is a third Rome and it is ready for expansion, I believe. Yes, and I send apologies to my friends in Turkland, but you should welcome such things and you should join such confederation, yeah.

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You know, so suggesting closing, it's a funny thing because I get attacked by Greeks now, nationalists, some of them, even though I like them very much. They're my friends. But there's a woman among them who is mentally ill. She hates me because through no fault of my own I have many fans in Turkey. And the reason they like me is because they are Kemalists, followers of Kemal Ataturk, and there are certain similarities in, let's say, the spirit of what I say in my book and the spirit of Kemalism. And they are, you know, they are secular, and many of them have a kind of quasi-pagan ideology where they want the revival of Rome. So they are Turks, but it's very complicated. They sort of think of themselves as Anatolian Romans or this.

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I think such people could be persuaded to join European configuration, Russian confederation. Before racist, which I am a racist, but some of you are dumb racists, you don't realize that people in Istanbul, for example, are whiter than people in southern Italy. No offense to my Sicilian brothers and so forth. But what do you, I know this segment has gone on for a while or so, but what do you think of that? Well, I'll say this, and we have been talking for a good minute here, and I think this is a good closing point, but, you know, Macron, he says Putin brings us back to an age of empires, and he's right. I think we'll see the rise of a new Roman Empire in the guise of Russia and we'll see many empires on its periphery, a return of the Ottomans, a return of the imperial Japanese military.

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I think this is an age of great expansion and the yoke of Americanism is gone. So great power to the many people, the many frogs out there who want to see a great new new age of national prestige for their people. It's coming. Yes. I say end to the slow suffocation of so-called Pax Americana. Welcome to Return of Excitement. May Apollo have spoken through your mouth so-so. Very nice. Yes. Hal Puthler. Very good. Hal Puthler, until next time. Very good. Bap out.