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And we are back, Caribbean Rhythms, Calypso show. I have special guest. He return one of leading luminaries of the retarded right, along with me and bureaucrat, old mafia friend, cigarette smuggler, Croat. Niccolo, you may have remembered him. He come on episode 12 now. He is back, fisted by Foucault. He has, Nicolo, welcome back to show. I hear you have substack, fisted by Foucault, substack. Thanks for having me back. When the Talmudic network rings, I answer the call immediately. Now this is pretty good for you. You only made me wait three hours this time, but it's okay, I was productive. For the last three hours, I've been insulting people online and I've been setting violent threats to people offline. Yes, I know, because they attack Meyer Lansky's honor
and as we know, you have to defend Bugsy Siegel, Meyer Lansky, and Lucky Luciano. But Nick, I'll tell you a reason I was late for show and I apologize to audience. I even thought cancel show because a friend sent me, he for some reason thought I would like to see this, a mother stork throwing out baby supposedly weakest, but I don't know how mother stork knows that, but throwing out weakest baby stork from a stork nest. And he sent me this video on X. And it made me so sad, Nick. This story all real, not made up. I am still sad. I almost cry at this. And I thought about cancel show because I cannot do high energy fun show with anyone after I see. How can people see this on X sad animal video and continue life, I don't know.
And then, of course, if I say this, then detractors, detrimental robots will say, oh, but Bap, you support eugenics, and yet you cry over baby stork being thrown out. But you know what, you are not sensitive because animal baby stork much more worse than human. Human is disgusting, baby stork, no. And one baby stork to me is worth more than all life in Africa, more than any Palestinian child. This is my statement. I would kill 10 million Iain Miles Chongs for one baby stork. Yes. Iain Miles Chong, this man, what is this man? He lives in Malaysia, this influencer, internet influencer, Iain Miles Chong. What is this? Well, what it is, is that he's a human thumb. That's what he looks like. He's welded into his fair.
I think that he is the discarded project of some pseudo-scientific engineering. I don't know. Maybe he was an early escapee from Hakan's lab. This is all conjecture and speculation on my point, but the point is that he is one of the ugliest human beings that I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, and he set himself up. I can't distinguish this guy from other so-called dissidents or post-liberalists, I think what they call themselves, post-liberal influencers. I can't distinguish these people. But listen, Nick, we come back to this topic. I wanted to begin asking you about European elections momentous, according to all left-right momentous last week, last few weeks in Europe, Euro elections. Right now, I just saw, Paul, in England, there is also major shift where Sunac's party is
polling only, I think, 15%, whereas Nigel Farage's party at 25%. And I know you have a fraught relationship with the Anglo, but this is quite an unusual condition in that country. Do you have any opinion about what's going on there? Yes I do, and I actually made mention of this. The Anglos are doing it right. The Tories have betrayed the English people repeatedly, not just from the last four times they've been in office, the last four governments they've formed, but throughout the last several decades. And instead of saying, you know what, let's bite our tongue, let's vote for them to keep the Labour out, they're assaulting the earth, trying to destroy that party. If there's any justice in the world, and there really isn't, the conservatives, the Tories
would get zero seats in the next UK parliament. Because here's why. Yes. If you give them the benefit of the doubt, or if you vote out of fear for labor, et cetera, all you're doing is reinforcing the horrible shitty positions that they're using to betray you anyways. And this has lessons beyond the UK. You know, when I, when I see people say, you've got to vote Republican, no, no, no, no. In 2016 when Trump won the nomination, I said his most important task now is to take over the GOP and make it a vehicle for America first for those policies. Otherwise there's no point, because if you don't have that vehicle, they're going to work against you alongside the other ones. You have to solve the earth, you have to punish these people, even if you take a significant
hit in the short term, it's better in the medium and long term. Well I don't know if Trump succeeded in doing this. The problem in the United States is, and actually Europe, I think England and France are somewhat outliers in the parliamentary system of Europe, but even so, they have multiple parties. In the United States, you don't, you have this GOP crap, and frankly, they are continuing their machinations for this election cycle, the GOP faggots. I don't know what you think about this, but I don't want to talk too much America now. Do you want to comment quickly on that? I really want to focus on Europe. I'll make one quick comment and let's move on to Europe. Let's say Trump wins the election, let's say there's no election meddling, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
and somehow he ends up in office. Yes. The GOP, the mainline GOP, the people who run that show, they're gonna see this not as a validation of what Trump was campaigning on, not as a validation of what the people behind Trump are about, they'll see this as a validation of, hey, low taxes, big business, this and that, and this and that. So you have to separate Trump from the GOP. And I'll say one more point before we move on. I want to reinforce the most important point. Trump is not the destination, he's the vehicle, okay? Well, okay, but that can be interpreted in many ways and actually I think it's true that GOP, All it does, it delivers some minor benefit to its donors in the sense of some low tax and so on. But its means of doing this, Nick, for decades has been religious demagoguery
under which it hides its other failures and social conservatism, which is maybe meant sincerely by some in the GOP, but I see significant efforts to pretend that Trump in 2016 and also now has actually been about supposedly social conservatism and banning pornography and it is these kind of GOP movement, conservative intellectuals trying to, yes, to say Trump is about abortion, complete ban on abortion or complete now ban on pornography or even contraception, which I think is a way to sabotage Trump for 2024. But look, we can come back to this because I know you have some opinions on what's going on on Twitter for last year and so forth. We can come back to that. I want to ask you, if you don't mind, about European elections.
So leaving England aside for once, what's going on, what's your opinion on what happened in France and Germany and so forth last week. Okay, now, we have to put this all into context into perspective. Elections for European parliaments are much more symbolic than they are real because the actual authority is in the executive in Europe, in Brussels, and these are people that are not elected directly, they're elected by groups, etc., etc., etc. So we cannot get too excited about the victories by populists in France and Germany in particular, but it is a symbolic victory. And we can get too cynical at times and say, you know what, this sucks, liberal democracy is never going to change, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And these people have a point when they say this backbeat.
But when you're too cynical, you remove yourself from the entire equation. You have to have a few streams. You have to have an intellectual stream. You have to have an applicable stream. And the applicable stream means delving into the politics, no matter how gay and stupid that shit is. So you need both of those things to make any actual progress and I hate to use the word progress, but it's the best word in this case. So what happened in Europe is this. France and Germany together, they're the core of the European Union. Everything spun out from that relationship. The point of that relationship post World War II was to bring them together to ensure they would never spark another global conflict again. And that has worked. And the fact that
Europe, which is based on very liberal principles, has seen its two core states largely reject those principles, it wasn't an outright victory but the numbers are there still, is indicative of the growing divide or chasm, you will, between the people and the people that rule them. Now at the same time we have to remember that years sovereignty in Europe has ebbed so much over the years. Each country in Europe answers to Brussels. Brussels overall answers to Washington DC because the EU, especially since the war in Ukraine, has relegated itself to a collection of American satrapies. So in effect these are countries that are basically branch operations of usa inc some are more important than others let's say germany france italy spain poland some
are much less important like my country we're the third tier in europe right so yes it's a symbolic victory it shows that there's a divide here and there's a generational gap as well the amount of media saturation brainwashing edumacation all that shit that targets young people saying you you have to have these liberal principles or otherwise you're a Nazi fascist and that the young people don't give a shit because the young people are the ones that are dealing with the one issue that Trump's all other issues in Europe it's not Ukraine unless you're on the border with Russia or Ukraine it's immigration it's mass migration yes that's everything that is the big overarching issue here just like it was during brexit and just like it is here
Yes, you saw this in France, well Germany too, the youth turned to right-wing parties and now Macron called for dissolve parliament, am I right? And there will be elections, maybe some say he will resign and run again or something like this. What's your opinion about what's going on in France with Le Pen versus the other right-wing parties more and so forth. There is infighting on the, just for the audience, there is infighting on the right, you know, yeah. Yeah, what Macron did is he does have some balls. What he did here is do something really out of the ordinary in France, and called early elections for their assembly for their parliaments, because usually scheduled every five years, but the last one you had was two years ago. And the reason why is that he is putting a situation
in place where he's trying to create a win-win for himself either people get scared and they vote for the center again to keep out Le Pen and those people further right or even the leftist types like Melenchon and those guys so that he has another mandate to rule or if he and his centrist constituency lose then for the next three years he is going to be able to rule with a lame duck parliament that's not going to be able to do anything not be not going to be able to achieve anything economic reform and that will potentially discredit any government that's outside of the establishment parties the center etc etc etc. So he's trying to create a win-win situation for himself here. Now there's been speculation that if the center loses this parliamentary election
which the polls are showing that it will that he will resign. Marine Le Pen came out with a statement I think was yesterday the day before saying that she will not ask him to resign so so she's gonna call his bluff if they do win. With respect to the topography on the right, Marine Le Pen has made a concentrated effort to distance herself from her father's politics, and there is a rhyme and a reason for this, obviously, the move to the center to be able to win elections. Unfortunately, you gotta do this, this is a compromise, but compromise is the nature of democratic politics. And so the coalition that many people assume that would be created between her, her niece, Zemur, looks like it's not gonna happen. So there is some infighting on the right.
At the same time, we have to bite her tongue, hold her tongue, and hope for the best. And you have to hope for a situation whereby the establishment takes an L, because if it doesn't take an L, it only reinforces everything that they've been saying. So even if there's some things about what she says, what she stands for, that we don't like, have to ignore for the greater picture. Yes, but I am curious because if she refuses with the more and other such, who exactly will? Would she make coalition with? And I know you say she reject her father's policies in favor of compromise. But what kind of compromise is that I have a lot of French friends in French right wing. In fact, they were the reason And you may remember, we were on Salo Forum, if I may say this, and then I decided to go
on Twitter for a supposedly mass audience, but really I went because of the disturbances in France in 2013. Some of my oldest friends on the right, even before that, are on the French right wing. And a lot of these people say that Le Pen's family needs to fuck off out of French politics because their name alone turns off so many Frenchmen policies that would otherwise they would vote for. And I don't know that Marine Le Pen has compromised in the right direction because in the last election, for example, she downplayed her anti-immigration position, which could be made on entirely reasonable, liberal grounds even, and she embraced instead this anti-establishment, I don't want to call it Banonite, but I will for the American audience, it's something
like Banonite in the sense that we must all band together against these evil corporate globalist, so kind of left economic populism, which the French people, especially the kind of, let's say, middle class people who are chasing under quite over-regulated French economy, they don't like that. So they went for Macron, who was promising actually in the opposite direction to make make France more modern, so-called, to deregulate the economy somewhat, to reform the economy. And so I don't know that I agree with you, Dick, because the way that she's compromising is she's saying, oh, we need to adopt some type of economic leftism and downplay the anti-immigration thing to where some French people I've known for many years on the right
are saying Le Pen party has almost abandoned migration restriction as platform. I don't know if they've abandoned it, maybe you know better than I do, but with respect to compromise and specifically what you were saying about economic populism of the left, quasi-socialist policies all of that, is that the right has made a lot of headway in traditionally red labor area, socialist areas, especially in the northeast, places like Lille, the old coal mining center of northeastern France, of France in general. And so we have to separate campaigning from actual governance. We can do this in this case, but because they have not been in government yet, so they have not had a chance to betray just yet. This isn't the GOP that's had government forever over and over again and continue betrays,
or the Tories in the UK. You have to get power first and foremost. What happens after that, you have to give them a grace period, just like I and many others gave Maloney in Italy, anticipating that there's gonna be some sort of longer game in play. But until they get into power, you have to cut them some slack. The boats on the right are still gonna go to the right in France regardless, maybe a little bit of a loss. But there's a fertile field on the opposite side to plow and to try to gain victory from there. Well, we will see, I guess, as far as I can tell, it is her who is doing the infighting and refusing to cause, to form coal- Well, yeah, when it comes to the personalities of Africa, they gotta go. She has to go. She's been around too long. Get Bardella to take over whatever.
Even her niece is preferable, but I still think she's too connected to the Americans. But there's a new generation waiting to take over in the wings. And the future is looking much brighter in France. I've said for a long time, the country to watch in Europe is France. France has the most potential for upsetting the liberal democratic paradigm, I hate to use that word but I'm using it, because the French have, they still retain a sense of greatness about themselves and they still think that they're much more important than they are, which is good in a way. And they have a lot of political and intellectual diversity that's lacking in the rest of the West. and they have the most dynamism. And that comes not only from their snobbishness, their history, all of this,
it also comes from the fact that they have so many fucking migrants in their immigrants. Yes, I agree with you on this completely. I think that when people say Germany is the center of the EU because of its economic strength, they overlook this. I really do think the heart of the EU in some way is France, but I'll make this prediction. I'm afraid, Nick, that if in the remote chance she will win, which I don't think, given her fractious personality, I think she is refusing to, sorry to use this phrase, unite the right in France, she's causing the infighting, but if she, in the off chance she wins, I am afraid that she will enact specifically economic policies that are very unpopular with, let's say, majority of French middle class, and will lead to some type disaster,
and she will be responsible for discrediting the right in France for some time. I don't know what, yes. Macron, his bets, and there's several bets underneath it. One of his side bets is that if Marine Le Pen comes with the power, her and the RM, is that they're gonna discredit themselves by creating an economic catastrophe for France. Now, the mitigating factor here is that France has been trying to structurally reform its economy for decades now, and it always fails. That's why they have so many strikes, so many violent strikes, so many instances of rebellion, especially by government, trade workers, et cetera, blah, blah, blah. So that is a silver lining. But you're right to point, to make a point of this, because the expected outcome is that she's gonna fumble
the economy, completely discuss the right for the next generation, it's great. Yes, I am worried. Let me go off subject of EU for Europe for a second. Everyone talking about Malay, it's been a while since we've talked on this show, Nick. I wanted to ask your opinion about Malay because I think people don't understand in United States that Argentina and France, the problems there, look, I would say even in the United States, but that's controversial case. but certainly in France and Argentina, the problem is not so-called hypercapitalism or too much corporate power. It's actually the opposite. They're both extremely regulated economies. And in Argentina, what's been going on for decades with the Peronist Party, Peronism, what was it? It was basically, again, sorry to use ban
and I'm sure he's a nice man and actually I agree with many things he say, But Peronism was Bannonism on steroids. Everything that the left and right economic populists in United States are demanding now, Peronism delivered for Argentina times 10. And the result was destruction, I think, of Argentina when it should have been a country that competed with the United States based on its location and the resources and potential. And it was the richest country, I think, around 1911 or maybe even after World War II, although that's whatever. But since then, it's a complete basket case and instead of competing with United States, it's competing with Venezuela. And the people there complete tired of essentially a foot on their neck where all the smart Argentines have left the country.
You go any place now, Spain, Costa Rica, it's all young Argentines. They, the smart people left the country, Nick. And so they, in a desperation, elect a man who is probably genuinely, I wouldn't say schizophrenic. I think Millet is probably a diagnosable, a schizoaffective disorder, if you've heard this phrase in psychiatry. It's kind of like half schizophrenic, because they think this man, whatever his eccentricities, will take a hammer to the Argentinian state. But I am worried that as he tries to reform economies there will be an inevitable crisis which he may not survive. If he does survive it, Nick, sorry to go on, but I must go on tangent because I am animated by champagne. I hope you don't mind.
People forget that there was bigger economic downturn in early 1920s United States than during the event that precipitated the Great Depression, and at that point, Coolidge decided to do nothing. He let all those businesses fail, whereas Hoover, although he claimed he would not bail out businesses, in fact, he did, so I think United States had a roaring 20s because Calvin Coolidge decided let the crisis work out, And a lot of businesses went out of work. There was a year and a half of extreme pain in actually early 1920s. I think 1920 or so there is extreme pain. And then economy roared. But I don't know if Milay would be able to survive. Let me cut you off there because I zoned out after five minutes of hearing you rant about this subject. And I really wasn't listening. You attacked.
I went to the kitchen and poured myself a drink. I cut your throat, you gypsy fucker! Let me finish your thought in a better way than you ever could to smoke more. I cut your throat. Nick, you shut your gypsy mouth. 1900. No, I will cut show. You're looking more like a shushaymani. Never team any sucker. Shushaymani. I don't know. I don't. This is from Hindustan. You're speaking Rajasthani to me. I don't understand. Look, I'll say one more second, then you can rant as long as you want. you want. All I meant to say is, in the United States, they could do that. In Argentina, two-thirds of country live on public handouts. In France, it's the same. I am worried that in Le Pen, we'll do the opposite and that Belay will not survive trying to reform Argentinian
economy. What do you think about this? In 1900, around that time, Italy was depopulating rapidly. You would have entire villages pick up and leave and they would torture themselves by having these internal debates. Do we go to the United States or do we go to Argentina? Because at that time they were viewed as equal with respect to economic prosperity and perspective and opportunity and all of that. The fact that Argentina has become a C-class country is an absolute disgrace. Now, with respect to Milan and being Croatian, tiny nation, narcissism of small peoples, I have to pronounce the fact that, you know, Milan is half Croatian, half WAP, very important. You know, the president of Chile is Croatian, even though he's a lefty, and Santa Cruz and Bolivia is run by my guys.
So we run the South. But anyways, I'm taking, I'm watching this and I'm hoping for the best, but it's a unique situation as you described, because the interests there are so entrenched, generations long, the power of the state, the power of the trade unions, and especially the power of the public sector there. My question is how much establishment support does Milay have? Because he is going to put himself out there, he's gonna risk himself, and God bless him for that. Is he gonna succeed? I don't know but there is so much establishment pushback against him that He is doing an either-all here And so this is gonna be an experiment to see how willing people are to sacrifice in the short term for a longer term game
Here in Croatia, especially here in the south in Dalmatia for the last ten years I see more and more young Argentinians moving here Whether they're half Croatian one quarter or not even or totally zero and the fact that they're moving here to come here to work Tells you how fucked up their country is despite the abundance of natural wealth that they have So yes, the lie is trying not just to correct the course But to take a few steps back and then work forward from there how much establishment the support does he have in Argentina? That's one question, but the bigger question is how much support from outside interests does he have? Let's say rating agencies, let's say capital investors and all of that, where they're not going to fuck us. The Talmudic network, yeah.
Talmudic network, your financial uncles, your uncle Moesha, your uncle Jacob and all of those guys, are they going to say, you know what, you're okay for a bit, now we're going to fuck you? Yeah. It remains to be seen. I think Argentina, France, similar in this way, over-regulated economies and people forget That is how Macron came to power as a millet light, as promising to reform that. Sarkozy, Sarkozy the same way. He came into power saying he's going to reform the public sector, he's going to restructure the French economy, but those interests are so entrenched that they're now institutionalized. That's why France has these constant strikes and rise and stuff like that. I don't think that the systems that govern these countries like Argentina and France
is capable of instituting the reforms that are necessary to restructure those economies. I'm afraid you're right, and fundamentally what it comes down to is old farts, old, disgusting old people sucking the lifeblood of young people out, but since we're on this subject Nick, you mentioned Ukraine, and it's a subject that, you came on this show when the war broke out between Russia and Ukraine, and I think it made me very sad since then, the subject I avoided, because this country Ukraine has been destroyed, Nick, but what's your opinion on this and on the fate of Europe, you've mentioned Europe-American relationship in regard to Ukraine. I can't watch any more of those drone strike videos because it legitimately saddens me. It saddens my heart.
I don't like to see Ukraine as a Russian's flight, to be honest. I can't take a partisan side. It's an unnecessary situation that was inevitable, if that makes any sense, unfortunately. And like I said to Kittle and Pigdog on Russians with Attitude, I did another episode with them over three months ago, is that this conflict was inevitable because there are historical grievances that need to be worked out, especially by countries who have, let's say, a negative experience under the Russians, whether it be the Finns, the Balts, the Ukrainians, the Poles, maybe even the Romanians, let's say, and the Georgians included. But it's a historical inevitability. It has to be worked out before there's a better future. So Russians need to
understand that. But at the same time, the people agitating against Russia, especially in Europe, do not see the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that Europe has now relegated itself to a dog, a slave dog of the Americans. We've seen the Germans over these last two years willingly destroy their own economy, willingly let Nord Stream get blown up for the sake of placating their American masters. And where Germany goes, so does Europe. It's not that I don't like Ukrainians, I actually have always sided with Ukrainians against Russia for cultural historical reasons. West Ukrainians, especially because they are Catholics, anti-communists, etc. But they unfortunately do not realize how they have been used by the Americans. They
are the biggest losers in this war. I made a prediction on the first day of this war. I said, big winner from a strategic perspective, United States. Small winner, Russia. Small loser, you big loser Ukraine nothing that's gonna come out of this war is gonna make Ukraine richer wealthier more secure a better place to live they have effectively destroyed their country and it's a fucking tragedy they've lost you know hundred two hundred thousand men I'm not gonna speculate on the numbers of casualties on the nervous killed in action but for what for fucking gay pride parade in Kiev to sell farmland to financial interests in New York yes look Look, I agree with you about actually everything you've said and your prediction I also agree with completely and that's in the end what matters.
I do disagree I think with some of the details. For example, I don't think the European countries are doing this because they are obeying the United States. I think it's actually the other way around. They are leading the United States into this war despite the fact that in the United States there are certain factions such as of course Victoria Newland and all those ghouls who are very eager to do this. But inside Europe, excuse, I have to go on again for a while Nick, you may want to go to the bathroom or kitchen to jerk off while I give Monologue. But take just the East European nations. I don't think you will deny that in places like Finland, which isn't East Europe, but you know what I mean, the Baltic countries, Romania, and so forth, they are extreme against Russia.
It's not the US pushing them that way. No, no, no, you're right. That's why I say those are legitimate historical grievances that I understand that everybody should understand, and that's why this conflict was inevitable from the beginning. So that has to be worked out. Just like Croatia and Serbia had to fight a war in the early 90s, and just like Bosnia is going to explode at least one more time in the coming future, these are historical inevitabilities that have to be worked out. Oh yes, of course I agree with you, United States meddling and troops in Bosnia is stupid. These conflicts will break out again either way. But okay, leave aside East Europe for a while. You go to West Europe, you mentioned Germany and so forth. I don't think they're doing it to placate the United States.
A lot of people in Germany, France, et cetera, have vacationed in Kiev over the last decade or two. They don't like to see, quote unquote, blonde people who look like them in Ukraine being bombed and they are very much for strong intervention on the side of Ukraine, stronger even than the United States wants. And I want to remind you, I told the audience this quite a few times, Maloney, forget recent election where again she has increased her gains, but in the first, when she got elected, she promised a very hawkish stance on Ukraine and her opponents in the Italian election saying very much what the, let's say, dissident people like you and I are saying is that it's not in Europe's interest, Europe will suffer, German industry will be destroyed by this
war because it depends on exports to Russia and so on. And I agree with all that. It's against Europe's interests. Nevertheless, her opponents made this case. But the Italian people decided for Maloney anyway because of these maybe sentimental and wrongheaded, you know. But I think, as in the Libyan war, where it was not United States, it was France and so forth pushing it, I think it is the European peoples pushing this. It's not the United States. What you say about this? No, you're completely wrong. First of all, the people in Europe who are cheering on Ukraine in this war from the perspective that you mentioned, that's an absolutely tiny cohort, you find them on the far right. There's racial… No, I don't think so. I don't think so, Nick.
You don't have the people that say we have to protect democracy and liberalism, we have to fight authoritarianism in Russia. That's a majority type. Yes. Yes. But it's all bigger mentioning about blonde people. That's a very minority type. That's a French type. Yes. With those words. With those words. You don't have people in Spain and France saying we're going to fight those Russians. No. It doesn't exist. You do. You do, Nick. You do. They call them Russian ogres and so on. That's an internet phenomenon. No, it's not. Even the left and the Libtards in Europe, they may not be using explicitly racialist No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about the left and Libtards. We know that the liberals, we know that the centrists, we know that the leftists, majority
of them, are very anti-Russian for all the reasons we state. What you're talking ... You mentioned, we don't want to see these blonde people being hit in theater centers ... Yes, yes. But I'm ... ... minority group in Europe. They are not much much stronger than the blacks. No, no, no. minority group on the internet. In fact, in Europe, however, even the left and the libtards, however much they may talk about democracy and so on, they are actually, I think, motivated by that. And even in their subtext, they will never say it explicitly, you're right, but they will say it in subtext. And look, regardless, I'll grant you what you just said. It is the European people, it is not America. The European people for whatever reason who are pushing for this war, the majority.
First of all, you're not allowed to contradict me on your show. Third, understanding here. I kill you. I kill you too. Third, first of all, Italians. Italians have always had strong economic interests, economic ties with the Russians, especially when it comes to the energy sector. So that's why you saw people like Salvini, et cetera, try to mitigate against the standard Western narrative against Russia. The people that supported Maloney, not even 100 of those people put Ukraine at the top of the issues. There are other issues that are more important because Italy is not driving that policy. That policy is being driven in two places, Brussels and especially Washington DC. Germany, Germany's entire economy, its competitiveness was underpinned by getting access to cheap Russian power, okay?
So there's that interest. And France, France like Britain, has a centuries old tradition of geopolitics where Britain has always sought to keep the continent divided amongst itself. The French have always reached out to the Russians to offset German power on the continent, okay? So this is an American driven program policy with a lot of European, let's say, assistants, people who are enthusiastic about this, but to suggest that the Europeans are the ones that are pushing this, I think that is fucking retarded. No, I think it's true, Nick. And what you just said now, in some sense, the French have used the Russians to offset Germans, but in another sense, the French have always hated the Russians, Nick, both culturally and politically, which is why, well, but specifically,
the Russians very much so, which, you know, I can go into detail about this. Why does Gobineau even, for example, call Russian women so ugly? I mean, it was a cultural trope in France to hate the Russians, you know, the Russians march into Paris after Napoleon and so forth. But look, it's just, it's true that Italy does not determine policy in Ukraine, that everyone knows that. On the other hand, this was an issue in that election, and people sided with Maloney. And regarding, let's say, the case of Germany, I will say this now, the social democratic leadership in Germany did as little as possible to help out the United States against Russia in this conflict. They were saying publicly in rhetoric that they support and so forth, but when it came
to action, you saw the Ukraine hawks, in the United States especially, constantly attack the German government for being two-faced, for saying they would help the United States but actually doing nothing. In the European Union, the Social Democrats and the left parties that have always been aligned with the Russians, whereas in this case, even the majority of Germans, Social Democrat or not, it was the majority of the European people in Germany pushing for helping Ukraine and the German government was trying to oppose that against the people's will. I totally disagree with you. You go to a European city, they are extreme anti-Russian now and extreme pro-Ukraine and it's not because the United States is pushing that. I have to disagree with you on this, Nick.
Center, liberals, and a good chunk of the left. The far left has always been very pro-Russia. There have been strong elements of pro-Russia groups in social democratic parties. You look at Gerhard Schroeder from the ex-chancellor of Germany. He sat on the board of, was it Gazprom, I forget, or even Nordstrom, I can't remember now. But this is an elite-driven project. You don't have spontaneous demonstrations in Europe outside of the countries that we mentioned, Finland, Balts, Romania, agitating for conflict with Russia. This is entirely elite-driven. The issue that everyone is focused on on the right side of the political divide in Europe is migration, immigration, and all the knock-on effects it has, economics, and all of that. The idea that European right-wingers
outside of those certain countries are dying, pushing the United States to do something, it does not stand up to scrutiny. And you should know this, especially because you know very well about Vicky Newlands, who I wrote a political obituary about four or five months ago that your 20 listeners should read at some point. And you should understand that the State Department that they've been trying to do, whether through the NGOs, whether through the color revolutions, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But the notion that Spaniards, French people, German people, Italians are driving the United States to be more aggressive against Russia, sorry, Nick, I too live in Europe and they are extreme anti-Russian and if you take Spain for example,
actually I would grant you that maybe in France especially there is some disagreement but in Scandinavia and Spain the right especially is extreme anti-Russian and the people also day to day if you ask them, they're extremely anti-Russian. But look, we won't agree about this. I think maybe we should discuss what's going on. Everyone talking now in Gaza, Israel, Israel and Gaza. What do you think? This is another thing for us to do. We can punch each other in the face over this now. What do you think on this? The conflict I love, and my calls on this have been really good. What I said from the beginning is that this war is not even happening in the Baudrillard sense. Here's why.
The fundamental underpinnings of this conflict, which is how do Israelis and Palestinians live next door to one another, is nowhere near being resolved nor even being addressed by this conflict, which means that it's not important. makes it even less important is the fact that no outside party up powers significant powers are doing anything outside of the usual to influence the outcome of this war. Sure you had a couple of bottle rockets flung at remote US Army bases in eastern Syria, Iraq. Sure you have some bombing of shipping in the Red Sea. That's a temporary distraction. And China's doing fuck all Russia's doing fuck all the Americans are managing this conflict. What makes it funny, though, is that the Israelis, and we know how Jews are very reasonable
and they have good tempers, is they're trying to manage this conflict. They're doing a pretty good job of managing this conflict. But at the same time, they cannot tame the Israelis like they need to be for domestic political considerations. The most brilliant thing that's happened in this war is how the Americans staged managed the Iranian hit on Israel and the Israeli retaliation on Iran. They were bottle rockets, they were sparklers that were throwing each other. That is a testament to how strong the United States remains. My favorite thing in this entire conflict though is the chimp outs online. You have these weenie art shit libs and leftists who for 20, 30 years have moralized moral fags, as they used to call them on 4chan, about this conflict, screaming all this, blah, blah, blah,
poor people, this and that, and hitting a fucking brick wall. Because for the first time in their adult lives, they've hit an interest that is so entrenched, that is so ingrained, that is so powerful, that no amount of moralizing has any effect on this whatsoever. When that guy set himself on fire a couple of months ago, People say, oh my god, this is legendary, this is going to change everything. I can't remember his name now, you know what I mean? This conflict does not happen, it's not a conflict, it's not existing, it doesn't happen. Well I remember Rachel Corey's name, fuck all did that do, Nick. It's funny to me because it does not, I'm not an Israeli, I'm not an Arab, I'm Palestinian.
This to me is a spectator sport, unfortunately there's a lot of innocent people dying, we know that. but that's because both sides not really give a fuck about innocent people and so it gives it allows us a clarity where we can look at this dissect see who's lying on both sides and try to figure out what is actually happening but the fact that people are so emotionally invested in a conflict that really it does not have any core interest to Americans or Europeans is beyond hilarious yes Nick Well, like me, we're both 40,000 years old and we've been through since the Hittite times. But I have seen previous so-called Palestinian Intifada and back then people were agitating in the same way too. Any day now, things will change in the Middle East. Of course, nothing ever changed.
And so people who haven't seen conflicts like this before think momentous things are underway. I'm not so sure. What do you think will happen with this conflict? Our online existence allows us to be, through commentary, allows us to be passive spectators or participants in these conflicts, even though we're so far removed from them. Again, this is Baudrillard. With this conflict in particular, one of the first questions that came up to me, and it came from a sense of history is was this attempt by Hamas prudent because if you look at the Ottoman Empire you had so many rebellions over the centuries and most of them failed because they picked the wrong time the wrong strategy the wrong whatever and I'm looking at that through that prism I from my own
perspective Palestinians have every right to rebel to enforce themselves to to put themselves over that entire land. At the same time, the Israelis have every right to react, especially when you take hostages. And that what allows me to view this, I think, in as objective a sense as possible. Where is this thing gonna go? Bibi said that this conflict is gonna take one year to resolve. He said that in October of last year, which leads right into before the election right now. So he might hand a gift to Biden, which I doubt, because Biden's trying to remove him from power, well, his office. But nothing is going to come of this. There's not going to be a total ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Gaza. It's going to be completely destroyed,
but there's not going to be a complete ethnic cleansing. They're not going to send them all to Egypt. They're not, they would love to send them to Europe. They would love to send them to United States, et cetera, et cetera, but that's not going to happen. All this is, is a punitive campaign by Israel in reaction to Hamas raids into Israel. Yes, which was a chimp out. But look, I think I've kept you on this segment long enough, and I think we need a smoke break. But before we go, Nick, I wanted to ask you, as we talk, I am, of course, new, as I am during my guest shows, and I am looking at my legs. and I posted a photograph of my legs in Tokyo recently with, and some people complimented me on my legs, Nick, but my legs are hairy, and I'm wondering if I should shave,
as some people have recommended, should I shave my increasingly muscular legs, Nick? Do you think I should do this? No, because you're gonna look too feminine from that. You need to have, because you are a dossian, you are Balkan by blood, and that would only take away from the, let's say, the sense of shock that people see how muscular and how her suit they are. So you should go with nature and allow those legs to be as hairy as they are. Yes, I just wanted to say one more thing in that connection before we go. I walk around street Madrid sometimes. I'm not there right now for audience to know I am still in, let's say, Eastern, whatever, Eastern world. But, and I see various men with shaved legs on Madrid Street, I was shocked to see this, Nick,
including some young guys, whatever you can say that's fashion, but there are some bizarre looking 49, 50-year-old guys with, you know, they have shaved legs. I was shocked to see this, Nick, what do you think about this? They may be spiritual faggots, but they're sometimes with nice women. I don't understand this. Look, I was in Japanese onsen recently, public supa-cento, it's called. It's like a public bath, not natural spring bath, but like public bath, but very luxurious some of them, and Japanese national baseball, Olympic baseball team come in, and you're supposed to be naked in the Super Sento, and all the, this goes with your fisted by Fuko name, you know, they come in, the baseball team, and I couldn't stop because there were too many
of them, and I was raped for no less than three hours. These people were faggots! let me tell you a story about 20 years ago let me tell you a story it's it's it goes along these lines 20 years ago i was really drunk downtown toronto and i beat the shit out of some afghan migrant i learned he was afghan later and they arrested me on the spot because it was in the heart of the enemy district king west and they actually made me stay over in the holding south overnight and the next morning they had the little cell in court for pre-yale and there's about 15 of us in there and of those 15 12 are black mostly Jamaican guys young whatever doing bullshit there was this one dude he's Portuguese about 45 and we're all talking there and it's taking
forever to get to our bail hearings and we're all talking and he's so happy this guy's the most happy guy chipper guy in the entire cell holding cell and um he looks at me he goes hey man you look really good and oh I ask him I go okay he goes what are you in here for I go I beat the the shit out of somebody, I'm here pre-filled. I ask him, what are you in here for? He goes, I'm gonna get parole. I've been in prison for 14 years for murder. Yes, well, you sound like Bobby Fischer now, you know. He didn't shave his legs. Nick, okay, we go smoke break. What do you think, Nick? Yeah, smoke my cigarettes, you love my cigs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Balkan cigarette awaits. We will be right back. Come on, stand up, everybody dancing!
I smoked just cigarillo this time, but Nick, welcome back and look, I am quite deep into bottled champagne. I need a chimp juice to talk to you because, frankly, you exhaust me with Balkanoid insanity. But let me ask you, before we talk on this episode, I sent you a photograph video of of my favorite, let's say, consort mistress, and you refused to comment, so now I cornered you on show, on the record, what you think of my favorite mistress. I can't, I can't, because I'm never going to validate your choices, because that would be an exertion of your power over me, so I'm going to let you think and second guess what I think about her. I have her photograph, I have her video, I have it right here now on my laptop,
I'm looking at it, but I'm not going to give you the dignity of an answer, and I'm not going to give you the pleasure of knowing what I think about it. Yes. Well, she is Spanish, special Spanish, but that's a large—that could be anywhere in the world. They colonize the world, right? Do you dress up as a conquistador and make her dress up as a Maya or an Incan or whatever? No, not that far. But I am— Passo, you've got to be more. I am more racially exotic than her, maybe, but listen, nigger law, I have to ask you, this is private section of show, we can talk personal things, but this is about America. I know you have some particular ideas about it. I know you've been talking about how America's end, which has been prophesied by so many
on dissident both right and left has been overstated and I agree with you actually. I lost you. What? Can you hear me? I'm happy. Well, it is okay. Do not worry, Nick. I can hear you just fine and the program we are using, although designed in some place like Bangalore, works perfectly fine. So can you hear me now? I can hear you. I think this is the CIA disrupting the signal. Yes, it is the Zionist, but this adds local color, so I will not edit it out of show. But listen, you were talking about how the prophesied end of the United States, which is such a common talking point on both the dissident right and left, this is overstated. And I agree with you, but I agree with you on maybe a slight different point.
Your claim, if I understand it right, is about the consistent and persistent power of United States on international scene, geopolitical power, and so on. I want to just say for a moment, if you don't mind, you can go to the kitchen and make yourself cevapcici, that's fine while I give monologue, but yeah, you do this. I just want to say, while United States' life may be bad enough that I moved away and I I know other men of power who moved from the United States, and I would even advise this course of action to many young people, maybe move away from the United States if you can. On the other hand, I was speaking recently, I won't say who, he was an important man. If you listen to this show, you will know who I mean, but I will say I don't kiss and tell.
important man. He was a very big China booster and India booster. He said that life in China and India is improving while life in the United States is being what you see on Dissident Right Twitter where you are dominated by criminals, where the streets are full of shit and disgusting and you are accosted on street, you are robbed and so forth, while life apparently in some parts of India or China is relatively nice, supposedly you can show pictures of nice subway stations in parts of China, for example. You can show futuristic Blade Runner cities from China and so on. And I think, Nik, this overstated, I'll tell you why very quick. I've made this argument myself somewhat when I talk about Brazil. I say, yes, Brazil is the stereotypical butt of jokes online, Brazilification, meaning
you become a favela, you become disgusting. And I actually convinced a friend to come see me while I live usually half the year in Rio, in Brazil, I convinced him to come over, telling him, this isn't really true, you will be pleasantly surprised by Rio. And guess what, although he believed all the dissident right talking points about Brazil being the end state of the worst kind of thing in the world, when he come over, he was surprised because the public spaces are very nice. The subways, for example, are actually much nicer than United States. The malls are super nice. What would be a terrible place in let's say Paris, the hall, H-A-L-L-E-S, I refuse to pronounce it with French accent, the hall, whatever, market, which is this beige kind of beige people, day off, airport terminal feel.
It feels like the end of the world. But the equivalent in Brazil, a mall, is actually very nice, pleasant experience going out. It's policed, it's clean, it's luxurious. These things are all true, all the public places are nice, there is also a public culture of gentility. There is a kind of genteel attitude where even though Brazil is highly diverse and many races and so on, but they're differential, excuse me, Nick, this is private part of show I can be frank, but the beige people and other people are usually differential to you in public places and it's quite a nice atmosphere. Nevertheless, what gets unsaid in all this calculus is the fact that living spaces in these countries for the average people is
very small. Even if you are middle class, let's say under middle class, but anywhere from middle class, even upper middle class, you live in a quite small place and for the The vast majority of people, they live in slums, and that is an undeniable fact. The slummification that still continues in India, actually most of China lives, I believe, at the level of Africa still. That's debatable, but I believe that. And most of Brazil, despite what I just said, lives at the level of Africa. Whereas in the United States and West Europe, where it is said to be declining, actually if you are middle class, you have a pretty good life, which is, from my point of view and maybe yours, that's the problem. People still have it so good, which is why everyone
wants to immigrate to these places. Anyway, I've been going on for a while, Nick. I know your take on American continuing supremacy is a little bit different. What do you have to say on this? Just what I have to say. I was at a conference a little over a year ago in Brussels. I was invited to be a bit of a shit-disturber. And this conference, it was a good conference, and I was probably the only non-academic there. And about three-quarters of the people on the panels, there was five different panels, they lasted over two days, were very critical to the United States, just like you and I are. But these were people that were critical and who have already absorbed the assumption that the United States is in permanent decline, that the multipolar world is already here.
The other quarter were American boosters, of course. You need a little bit of balance. When it came my turn to speak on the specific subject, I kind of upset the organizers. I said, what if the United States manages to pull off what it's trying to do right now? And this upset them because it upset their assumptions back. Yes. Americans have had it so good for so long that they have difficulty separating themselves from what America actually is right now, the empire. So if their lives are not progressing like they'd like, if their lives are getting shittier, if their purchasing power is declining, they tend to extrapolate that on the entire body itself, the corpus. My statement is, my position is this. Yes, there are a lot of aspects of the United States
that are in decline, you know, infrastructure, for example, Shitty bridges all over the place, all that stuff. Decline in the elites. A lot of them are really like third, fourth stringers, but the United States has such a head start on its competition that it can coast on this for a long time that it can experiment with bullshit like DEI and all of that stuff, and still be able to secure its primary position globally. Now, I've written a lot about this, a lot of essays, hubris, all this stuff, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The Americans, are they overconfident right now? For sure. They are purposely antagonizing both Russia and China at the same time, even though Kissinger was the one that led the action to split the two apart. So this is a sense of overconfidence, a sense of hubris.
But the fact that America has so many advantages to it, not just geographically, but economically, technologically, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, kind of goes against the grain because when, let's say, George from, I don't know, Florida, he's saying, my God, this place is run down, it's getting worse and worse and worse. That does not translate into what America is now. America is changing now. It's becoming more imperial, power's becoming much more concentrated. Whether you're George from Florida, Elizabeth from Nebraska, Jorge from Chile, or Dieter from Germany, in the eyes of the American elites, you're all the same, you're all the same, you're all subjects of the empire. Being an American now with citizenship literally means nothing, because when you let so many millions in,
give them everything they want, and it's quite often much better for them than it is for people trying to get in there legally, what value is there in being American? And if your country is viewing you like this and treating you like this, why should you and your personal situation have any relevance as to what is going on globally. Does that make sense? Yes, it makes sense. And you've mentioned for a while America continuing power abroad. I think this is debatable because one year it can go well, one year it can go bad, and then forecasts change depending on this. No one knows how Russia, for example, Ukraine conflict that we talked on last segment will turn out. if it turns out Russia favor, will there be forecasts from people like Bonannia
and others saying, oh, now Samuel Huntington is correct and multipolar world is returning and such. I don't know there, but. Let me say something about that, this is a very good point. People know me most for my geopolitical takes. And there is a bad habit among people that write or do videos, all this stuff on social media, when it comes to geopolitics, that they're constantly producing content and they will seize upon the smallest bit of news, exaggerate it, extrapolate, oh my god this shift is happening, oh my god Turkey's leaving NATO. You cannot have that type of approach in geopolitics because usually these are policies that take a long time to change, to shift, etc, etc, etc. Especially when it comes to bigger
countries like China or Russia or the United States. It's like turning around a huge naval vessel and so you have the situation where you get into sensationalism where people are overwhelmed with the abundance of garbage coming out and it distorts their view of what is actually happening yes no i agree with you and i think the unfortunate truth is that united states even let's say the worst case happens and they let in a flood of migrants and let's say united states population becomes 600 million or even Americans like Iglesias the human tomato Matt Iglesias wants one billion Americans but let's say something like that happens and you have American shanty towns even then America can mobilize hundreds of billions of campesino and sub-saharan peasants
and I want to remind audience that Brazil for the most part for its people it's a shitty country But it's still, I think, last I read, sixth largest economy in the world. It's an important country in the world. And so, United States elite, so-called, can continue being important to the world, even as life for normal people declines. What can I make that be? If you're a flyover country, your life is getting shittier, what does it matter to the elites in Washington, New York, or Los Angeles? It doesn't mean shit. As long as the lights are on, as long as the power keeps working, as long as transportation and supply chains are intact, Who gives a fuck about them? Yes. No. Is this true? Nick, let me ask you something, because it's become kind of industry on internet, as you just said.
What is that? That's outrageous. What do you say? You talk pornography on my show? It's a family show. I forgot. But you said seven. That's not anything. Listen. Now you say what you are right about industry, about online pundits, and not just online magazine pundits making predictions about decline of United States. One of them is this pathetic character who for mysterious reasons was hired by American magazines. I don't want to focus on him specifically, but I think he's demonstrative of what's going Malcolm Kiyune, also known as Tinkzorg, who constantly makes absurd, for the last two years, absurd predictions of imminent implosion of United States. Of course, nothing ever happens. But he's not unique, there are many others like this. What you think of what's going on,
I know you have some opinions on this, what's going on online now in general with the so, what we've called face fags, I'll comment on this in a moment, but what we've called face fags, artificially inflated by who knows who, to make absurd statements online. What do you think about this? If you remember prior to Trump joining the campaign in late 2015, early 2016, you, I, and our little group over at Salo, and prior to that the other forum, we were completely checked out of the United States politics, American politics, do you agree? Yes. Now, when that happens in the entire shitshow that came of it, I think that there is a psychological adaptation that we humans have made in the last century where, due to media, various
types of media that have come out, is that we tend to see our lives and our collection of lives as some sort of novel with a build-up, with a denouement, with a climax, etc. And the news cycles that span out of 2016 were so pervasive, so powerful, that people can't let go of that. And life is not, it's not a movie, it's not a novel, but there is a lot of money to be made by, let's say, sensationalizing things. There is a lot of clout to be gained by sensationalizing things. And I do myself a financial disservice by not being one of those people. I'm the one that says it's not happening, it's not happening, and I'll take a financial hit for that. The reason why that is that I could not live with myself by being a bullshit artist who
chases the news cycle, but there's so many people that do. And those people are what we, you and I, call the face fags. And these face fags, some of them have built an audience over the years, legit. A lot of them are very much astroturfed. And the more sensationalist, the more controversial you try to be, the more energy you attract, the more interactions, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And what these people do is distort the real picture of what is actually going on or not going on. And it's interesting to me because you mentioned Malcolm Cayune, it's like Peter crying wolf. At some point, these people have to be discredited because there's a law of diminishing returns. If you have a lot of credibility and you say, holy shit, this is a real happening,
something's happening here, people are gonna listen. But when you predict 13 out of the last zero great depressions in the United States, you should be seen as nothing but a joke. But the market for this stuff is so massive that that's, what's the word I'm looking for here, being answerable to it, whatever. It's just not there and it continues itself It perpetuates self, it builds on itself, it builds on other people doing this, where it creates a false reality or several false realities. One of these is that the United States is going to collapse the civil war, you know, any day now, or the United States is falling apart, or oh my God, Turkey's pulling out of NATO, or Iran's going to attack Israel, or Turkey's going to attack Israel. It's all bullshit. Yes, yes, yes.
But this is the thing, Nick. The mainstream media, which is leftist, of course, and then the conservatives of which the neo-cons used to be a major part, they discredited themselves in the 2000s and 2010s with their policies, with their predictions, and so on, with their lies. And the only thing that brought international attention actually to online right, I don't want to call it dissident, but it was the right, I call it maybe faction of truth, was the fact that we on small part corner of internet were the only ones who told the truth. The truth about gender differences, race differences, also geopolitical matters and so on. And that brought much attention to us. But now you have these people who specialize, as you say, sensationalism.
But also, let's just call it what it is, in lying, and they even acknowledge sometimes that they're lying, they say, oh, we're doing propaganda. Well, I'm sorry, you're not actually doing propaganda. Because you don't own a state apparatus, and you don't own the minds of the people in that closed state media loop. And so actually, the left, trying to do propaganda, discredited itself. And now you have these right dissidents, usually, but some left dissidents, retards, trying to, you know, they're saying, we do propaganda. But they're discrediting themselves, Nick, whether it's by predicting Turkey attack Israel, or we can talk many other lies they tell of what your opinion on people like Alex Jones yeah globalist demons drinking the blood of children Alex Jones is a
special character I love him to death he is a carnival barker he's a southern preacher of old he is a gateway type to other things he's a mass market type and he does what he does he has value in what he does but at some point you move past that and you appreciate him for his showmanship but when it comes to these people that bullshit endlessly here's my favorite point to drag out and I learned this about 9-10 months ago. BRICS, you know what BRICS are? BRICS is supposedly the grouping of countries, Brazil, Russia, Iran, China and South Africa, laughably, that are supposed to be able to take on the West and create a counter block to take on Western supremacy. Now, South Africa can barely keep its lights on, which makes it hilarious. And I spoke
They have a bank, it's called the New Development Bank, the NDB. It's colloquially known as a BRICS bank and the propaganda, the agitprop surrounding it was that they're going to issue a new currency to take on the greenback. Well, they never even claimed to try to do that, but here's the kicker, the new development bank, the official BRICS bank, a bank that's going to take on the west is actually in compliance with global sanctions against Russia. They had to pull all the money out, and it wasn't much money, but they had to pull all the money out that they were using to fund programs and projects in Russia in order to be in compliance with global sanctions against Russia because the global economic system, since 1945, Bretton Woods, et cetera, has been so shaped by the U.S.-led West.
It's such an intricate web. It's gonna take a very long time to untangle even if they manage to have stability within that group and even if they try to get to those steps. So you have people, and there's a lot of like these leftists that are infiltrating the right, especially on social media, you know, the compact people and those people, they're already like multipole world is here, blah, blah, blah. Where's your World Bank? Where's your IMF? Where's your NATO? Your fucking bank is in compliance with sanctions on Russia. What the fuck are you talking about, stupid? Yes. Of course on geopolitical sphere it is the only country really able to project power abroad is United States. Russia also before was able in Syria and in Iraq against ISIS, but too much less. I don't know.
I think what you think about what's going on, you know, X is a small part of the general media sphere, but I know you have some opinions about this. What do you think about going on on Twitter and other such things for the last year or two? Well, Elon gave us a gift. Elon is Reddit, and God bless him for that because there's a couple of things that happened in his personal life and probably his professional life as well that made him choose to drop 40 plus billion dollars on Twitter and turn it into And that's been to our benefit. And no matter how many times he does something that does not conform with the principles of the very principled hard right, it doesn't matter. He did us something huge. He let us speak. He let us speak with much less suppression than we had before.
I've been banned 15 times. You've been banned a few times. You know what I mean? So it's a positive development. It doesn't give us everything that you and I want. But, you know what, it's much better than what was happening before. Yes. Well, look, I like having my old account back. No question about this. But at the same time, I don't think it's Elon himself, but some people at top of X and so on. And look, I don't want this episode to be only about what's going on on Twitter. But some people on top of X, I think there are strong astroturf over the last year or two. And I suspect it's an attempt, again I'm not saying it's Elon doing this, although he did not like Trump before, but there's I think an effort to sabotage Trump. What do you think about this?
I'm not going to speculate on an effort to sabotage Trump, but there's definitely astroturfing going on, in order to create a sense of balance, let's say, between the acceptable right, which really are centrists, and the rest, and it creates a lot of cringe, that's the only comment I have. Yes. Well, look, I don't know if you, we can talk about other things, I don't know if you want to talk this, but in the United States, antisemitism is not a real problem, the only people who want to pretend it's a real problem is the ADL and the SPLC and the usual left hard organizations. And to some extent, I think I would think also places like the Daily Wire, who run by people like Ben Shapiro and Barry Weiss and such, yeah, they need it as a yes, exactly what you just said.
And what I see going on, on not just Twitter, but in general with election campaigns, Kanye especially since 2023, last year, when he declared, and I don't think people fully understand that Kanye was being platformed or run, his campaign was run by GOP consultant. It's called, I'm sorry to talk this, Nick, if you're not interested, but it's called Atlas Strategy Consulting, but there were others as well, old GOP firms who were sort of astroturfing the Kanye campaign. And since that time, there has been this kind of fake cartoonish anti-Semitism in which I don't even think that real anti-Semites, I mean Candace Owens, who is a huge personality at least on Twitter or X right now. She got her start on a so-called talent agency that was being run by an Israeli.
I'm sorry to get into such gruesome details, but she was, you know, along with unusual people like Lauren Bobbert, she was being run by an escort agency, essentially, that was being run by the Israeli guy, and then Jake Shields, who again popped out of nowhere, he was in Israel teaching the IDF to fight and such, all of these weird people come up out of nowhere and they start making bizarre statements like the Congress is shaped like a menorah and gets 40,000 retweets or something. And this reads to me, if you know during Cold War, the Soviet Union used to go into West Germany or places like that and spray paint swastikas on Jewish cemeteries and things like that, not because they were genuinely anti-Semitic, of course, the Soviet Union, but because yes, they were false flagging.
They wanted to see what would happen. And again, I'm not saying Russia's behind this, not at all, but this reads to me, it's so lurid and cartoonish and these face fags come up out of nowhere with, I'm only questioning the background because the things they say are so stupid that I don't know what you think about this. See, from my point of view, from your point of view, we are already in this kind of ghetto online. see this things happening we think all these people are there to besmirch us and to make us look stupid but what I think is really going on when you look on the outside and the fact that anti-semitism doesn't really exist in the United States of West Europe and the only people who wanted to exist are
people like the ADL and the SPLC I start to wonder what is going on with this is this an attempt in 2024 election year to try to drive a wedge in Trump campaign which depends on unfortunately zionist evangelicals and these people saw this and are trying to do something what do you think about this they need a scarecrow they need a nazi scarecrow and you can you define nazi however you want they need a richard spencer richard spencer is not indulging them anymore he needs to protect his own skin save his own skin they but the problem is that they have such horrible material to work with and that's why to you and I who've been around us for so long it comes off as so cartoonishly hilarious and so what we saw in the last week is you have these people cartoon anti-semites air
quotes they're meeting with David Duke they're criticizing what's gonna happen is at some point they're gonna come back and say you know what now we support Trump it's the entire point is to discredit the Trump campaign this is the It's the most obvious op, it's the shittiest op, and this is actually a point in favor of American declinist because it's so horribly and transparently executed. Yes, yes, no, I mean, this one, this my thought also, but I don't think it will work. It leads to me like never Trump faggotry, like, hey, let's try to separate the evangelicals from the Catholic working class in the upper Midwest that votes for Trump. And this has always been their place since actually 2016. But it never works, you know, it's, they've attacked me since 2023.
And again, not to vaunt, but I've done, I've done very well in terms of my audience and so on. And my Twitter account has doubled and such since 2023. But they were incompetent as they were in 2016 when they ran Marco Rubio to try to act like Trump, and he ended up looking like a— And then McMullen. Yeah, McMullen. Well, McMullen was really pathetic, but they actually tried to get Rubio to act like Trump. He made jokes about Trump's cock size and such, and of course, it came off as pathetic because this is what the Republicans do, Nick. Mr. Obama came in 2012, nobody remembers, they ran this guy Bobby Jindal, who is some Indian guy, thinks from Louisiana, look, we're going to run our own colored fellow, it's a psychological operation, you know, how did that work out, you know?
Yeah, it's transparently obvious to the point where we do not even have to address it, in secure terms, mockery and abuse is all that's required. Nick, let's not talk such petty things. I've been keeping you a long time, but I don't want to end yet. If you can stay a little longer, I want to ask you about our own side of the world, East Europe, crushed between West Europe and Russia on the other hand. What do you think fundamentally is the destiny of places like Croatia or other small countries, East Europe? You want to comment on this? on it and it's not a very good picture right now my country is doing a speed run of aping Western Europe and you know 30 years ago when the war happened our overarching aim was to be part of Europe to separate ourselves from the communist
world to separate ourselves from the Serbs this and that because back then there's a much more palatable and tolerable Germany Italy etc but right now what's happening in my country and you can see especially up in the capital, Zagreb, is that there's swarms of young men from Nepal, Philippines, who are doing delivery for outlets like Bolt and stuff like that. And you have retards here who say, well, you know, they're just temporary workers, they're this and that. But those of us who have experience out further, especially North America, know that you let them in like this, then they become permanent workers, then they bring their families in. And what compounds these problems is the fact that countries like Germany act as a central fugal force in Europe where
they get all the educated workers and even some of the less educated workers and in anti-self countries in Eastern and Southern Europe unfortunately and none of this changes until we Europeans are able to not only seize institutions in Brussels but lessen I'm not saying completely get rid of but lessen the influence the United States and Europe. And that sounds bleak and a black bill. It's not. It's reality. It's a realistic assessment. But that's where the trajectory is right now. Yes. I know you like Orban and I like him too. He managed to stop migrant flow into Hungary and reverse many other thing. I for long term, for long term, I am not sure about his project. He even says this himself. He said himself, he goes, we're a small country,
Hungary. We cannot stop this by ourselves. We need allies. And that's why a few years ago I was pumping up the V4 thing, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Poland, because there's cultural similarity, there's similar interests, but the war in Ukraine completely blew this apart to the benefit of people like the State Department, Brussels, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. What we need here in Europe is to create a collective bloc that runs counter to the liberal democratic West that managed to seize the power structures in Brussels. Look, fundamentally, I agree with you. The problem is, I won't say his name, but the common friend of ours who has been to both Hungary and Russia will say, when you look on, let's say, Tinder or such in these countries,
the young women, and not just the young women, but I mean, I think all the young people, They are not for people like Orban or Putin, unfortunately. They are for the EU and for this modern Western culture. And so I think I see Putin and Orban long-term as kind of Reagan was in the United States. I think Mollbag is right about this, Reagan in the 80s. It's a nice thing, but fundamentally he does not change. Yes, yes. Now, he cannot win the young people, that's the problem. Those are professional classes, the urban classes, et cetera. and you're correct. And this is why, it's one of the points, and I was on Alex Koshuta's show before months ago, and she's in Romania. We discussed this as well. The pervasiveness of American culture and soft power
is much larger now in the ex-commerce block in Europe than it was 20 years ago. And so even if America looks a little bit weak on the stage here and there, all of these technological advances, social media, cell phones, et cetera, puts the CIA in every one of our pockets here. The UK, for example, 25 years ago, their culture was very different from America's. But now it's a very Americanized culture. I remember going there about 15 years ago and being shocked that Brits, Bongs, their favorite TV show was Friends. You know what I mean? That would not have happened 30 years ago. So even though American hard power seems a bit brittle these days, American soft power is more pervasive and more effective than ever, and things that support that thesis.
Well, look, I agree with you, but the counter of that is the reason that crap like Friends, which was when I watched it, I was like, I want to join Al-Qaeda, this kind of life is disgusting. But it's because these countries are not actually offering any positive alternative to young people that's inspiring Orban, Putin, all of these people are not fundamentally, you know, someone like Mussolini would, right, but they are not dynamic, they're conservatives, they're not dynamic types, and you're right, they're faggots, fundamentally, they're faggots, Nick. And you mentioned Romania, I actually was building up to ask you about this, because Just now in the, I think, recent elections, there was a so-called nationalist woman elected
to European Parliament, correct me if I'm wrong, from Romania. She's this fat, ugly bitch. And as far as I can tell, she's being run by the Romanian security services to make nationalism look retrograde and stupid, because she's promoting the kind of nationalism that exist prior where she's saying, oh, Hungarians are bad, we, you know, we want, we have claims against this kind of rhetoric. You know, let's fight the Hungarians. It's making counterproductive, yes, exactly. And I wanted to ask you, you know, Hungary has Orban, other countries, you know something about Romania. Why does Romania not have something like equivalent of even Orban, let's say, and just this fat That bitch who's like, oh, we need to reassert the Romanian traditional costumes and fight
the Hungarians as if that's the big problem. I think there's a few reasons there. One is that you guys are Balkan like us, even though Romanian people never like hearing that they're Balkan. Two, you're probably right about remnants of the sakuritate that are putting this up there. Three is that Romania has actually benefited quite a lot from the fall of the Berlin Wall. I've done a lot of business there. I've hung out there and there's a very positive attitude towards America, especially in places like Bucharest. I was doing business with a bunch of American lawyers from Virginia, which basically means Langley, that are based out in Bucharest. And the Romanias I spoke to, they have a very positive attitude about it. And so for them to reject the degeneracy
of liberal democracy, they have not advanced to that stage where they did not have the clarity division that let's say like an Orban does, because he knows what this country would be if the socialists were permitted to rule in place of Fidesz. Yes, I am worried about these countries in East Europe, Nick, because a lot of the young people have left for West Europe, right, and they work there, and what's going – birth rate already very low and the young people leave, so what's going to happen? I don't know if Bulgaria will exist as such. numbers are devastating and the only hope we have is two things that extrapolations are not always correct and that there can be some sort of turnaround and these are these are medium to
long-term range things i do not see any progress nor in any even real strategy of countering this unfortunately it's very depressing to talk about let's talk about something else i was in new york for Christmas, Yarvoid invited me to hang out with him to do some filming and I ran into Vladislav David von from tablet magazine. Who is this faggot? And I got up to beat the shit out of him the first night and the entire production team that was filming stopped me and the second night I saw him and he started smiling he thought I was doing it for the sake of the production when I really wanted to beat the shit out of him and i said blah the reason why i don't kick the fuck out of you right now is that it's against the law and the point here is that people like him who have
no honor no respect no dignity really need a good fucking shot in the head every once in a while there is a there is a there is a personal violence gap that needs to be filled there are too many people with big mouths who have never been punished hit by their father and it shows yes Yes. Yes. No, I don't know who is this faggot, David Son? Tell the audience. I don't even know who this is. David Son is a writer. His stuff appears in Tablet magazine. He claims to be a Ukrainian patriots. He's a, he's a Soviet Jew from Central Asia and he is very much about fighting the war in Ukraine to defeat the Russian orcs in favor of liberal democracy and everything. But when confronted by people and not just me, why aren't you going there to fight? He
He says, oh, I don't even have citizenship, they can't even recruit me if they tried. And I chipped on him. I got up, I chased him in Sovereign House. There was four or five guys that had to stop me from kicking the fuck out of him. Yes, no, I mean, of course he could join, there are foreign volunteers who join all the time. This is typical crap about, I wrote a long article against this, Nick, trying to convince at least some of our friends, do not waste your lives in an industrial war in Ukraine, my God. I threatened three youths on the subway in North Manhattan. I could not go to Jude Dork, I think, because I'm afraid of what happened to Ricky Vaughan. I have not done anything, but any kind of ambitious prosecutor could come up with such
things against me, and besides that, what you are mentioning right now, I could not to resist just punching in face whether it's people like you just mentioned David Zorn or I cannot believe what's going on. Is this true what you're saying that people are acting out subway and nobody does anything? I could not resist that, you know. I challenged three youths and they didn't fight and then there was one white guy after when he got up and said thank you that was great and so I felt I was doing a public service. I threatened to hang them off of a tree and they left. Yes. Listen, this is what I recommend for you because it's not worth it. You punch someone in the face, you get their blood on you, their blood may be infected with herpes virus or something.
So what I suggest is I knew Persian Jew from Los Angeles and they are not like, let's say, Woody Allen Jews. They are more like Dagestanis or Chechens. They fight a lot. They're gold changers, they slash each other's faces with knives and such, and he had scars on his faces from fistfights he got in, but he told me, hey, I'm tired of fights, so I'm tired of getting scars on my face, so I have mace now. So I mace people all the time to stop. You should carry this. It's called mace spray, have you heard of it? I've heard of mace spray. I had one street fight left to me before I age out and that's going to be Nick Fuentes when I find him in Chicago and I'm going to give him the beating. His father was too much of a faggot to never give him.
Well but this men's country type guy, Obama, Rahm Emanuel, men's country, speaking of which, I've been keeping you for a while now Nick, I don't want to keep you much longer but let Let me ask you before we go on, pleasant subject, not, nothing unpleasant, pleasant subject. I want to ask you, you have read signature literature story dominated by Doug Nifty that I have posted from time to time, and I have had, let's say, I don't know if you want to call them fantasies, but projections of me being on national television, whether it's in a cooking show or something, being not so much crucified, I don't want to be blasphemous, but raped on public television to show my suffering to all peoples. I don't know what you think about this. That's fucking gay.
No, you are trying to attack me, but it's not… This is a carry of Bassey's turf. You can't encroach on his turf. start driven by homosexual desire so much as just showing my suffering to the world, you know. Suffering while you're moaning in pleasure, you fucking homo. No, you are trying to attack and besmirch my honor to be in front of the United States Human Rights Council, which by the way, I have family members who are daily writing letters about me trying to discredit me in front of the human rights international community, but that's not a story for the time being. Now, this is what I want you to do before we get out of here. You're going to tell your audience, all 25 of them, to subscribe to my substack, to tell them how good my stuff is, whether it be on the color revolutions,
regime change, Spanish civil war, which I'm continuing very soon, articles on Vicky Nuland, all of this travel film. You're going to tell them that, OK? Yes, Fisted by Foucault. You subscribe, but you mentioned this matter of fisting, right? Before we go, what is this about? You are called Fisted by Foucault. What is that reference? It's in honor of Dominated by Doug. It's a play on that. The reason why I call it fisted by Foucault is that Michel Foucault, infamous, famous French intellectual academic writer researcher, is the most cited person in academia today. A lot of what we don't like about the world right now in the West is due to his influence and the influence of other post-structuralists like him. Not everything that's happening now is something that he would
be that he would agree with but the point is that he has a lot of influence and he's responsible for a lot of this so he was himself a complete pervert a homosexual who died of AIDS in 1984 he was one of the early fisters now the fisters were guys and this thing started up in New York and San Francisco in the late 70s they would lube up their fists and they would shove the entire fist inside of another man's ass and he was into this because he was very much into sadomasochism because he talked about power he wrote about power power concepts power relations and all of this what was interesting that i learned in my research because i'm the aids guy as per the people in new york is you would think that the recipients who got the anal trauma the rectal trauma it's an
actual medical term of the fist is the one that would get things like hiv it was actually the active partner in that role because they would get these herpes viruses that would lead to that type of skin cancer and because their immune systems were so depressed already it would end up in full-blown AIDS so the entire point of this is I want everybody when they see the name Michel Foucault not to think about him as this brilliant intellectual but as this disgusting degenerate fucking pervert, and this disgusting pervert is the most influential person in the West today. So it's subversive. Yes. Nick, with all due respect, and you know much more about this maybe than I do what happened in San Francisco in the 1970s, but I really do think it was the so-called bottoms
who got AIDS disproportionately because they got fought. No, no, of course. The receptor partner with respect to that, of course, but this was a special side note because of the Kaposi sarcoma, that type of skin cancer they would get. But that's for sale, of course. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe Kaposi sarcoma is gotten by using poppers regardless of any sex. Is that correct? No, no, no. Because the Kaposi sarcoma came from a herpes virus. Okay, I didn't know that. But look, yes, Nick Salo, fisted by Foucault, is writing now, I believe, a book, Nick, about Spanish Civil War, but we talk about that next time. And until then, I want to leave audience with image, Nick, of it is not, as you say, driven by sexual desire, but of me being crucified,
so-called in sort of national television, on being gang raped on front of national television. I don't know what you think. It's image I want to leave you with. Nick, I want, please, you come back on show. I am at the end of champagne bottle, so you must leave now if it's okay. I had a book. Very good. We talk soon. Heil Hitler and Sumimasen and very good. Until next time, yes, yes, uh, uh, tap out, yeah, yeah.