Welcome to Caribbean Rhythms, I am here, a special guest, international commentator, man of Mossad, I believe he is Mossad agent, am I right, Michael Mallis, everyone knows Michael Mallis, he a writer, a new writer, and of White Pill, and his podcast, but many of you have long known Mr. Mallis as international provocateur. first time he come clean, Mossad agent. Welcome to Caribbean Rhythms, Michael. Shalom, Dracula. Yes, thank you for coming on. Michael, we met in Tokyo, is this right? We met in Israeli embassy and then took a walk through Cimbuya And we went for sushi. I know you have some opinions about Tokyo as opposed to American cities and what New York has become, you know? Oh, you know, first of all, it was a great, great privilege to have an evening with you.

I'm not being sarcastic or ironic at all. I know it's hard when I talk, how many layers of irony are you on, bro? But I think that it's really fun when people who you kind of know of on the internet, you get to meet them in real life. And I don't know if I'm revealing too much, I don't think I am, but you are in real life just like you are on the internet. So for people who are thinking BAP is kind of different when the computer's off, that's not accurate. I really didn't want to like Tokyo because I hate anime, I hate like weeaboo culture. So I was like, all right, like I had a chip on my shoulder and God help me, they, I had to submit to use your words. It was such an amazing time. I went for 10 days. It made me so, so angry to see a city

that is managed well to know for proof, absolute proof that the studies that are managed poorly it's by choice. And I know people are gonna be like oh well New York's always been shitty. New York has not always been shitty like it is now. Don't don't even begin to tell me that because even if it's even if you're gonna make the argument which I can possibly wrap my head around that New York will never be as good as Tokyo, New York can sure be a hell of a lot better than it is now. It sounds like these chicks are like, I'm 280 because I have a thyroid condition. What, you can't be 220? You know what I mean? So it really made me angry. I think I can honestly say that anyone I know who would go to Japan would enjoy themselves. And I was also very angry at

the lies I think were taught in America about Japan and Japanese culture. The idea that everyone there is like a robot, not at all true. They were very personable. And you know what else? We have a lot to talk about here, but I know we have plenty of time to discuss it. One of the things that also was beautiful was to be in a country where people were proud of their country. Like they love Japan, they love being Japanese. And if Americans had a bit more pride in America, then America would be a better place. Yes, the lies about Japan also get to me, you know. Of course, the people, you can go out, many, even regular bar, nightclub bar, Izakaya, this drinking restaurant, everyone happy to talk to you. I had many times, you know, Japanese businessmen, I start to talk about Mishima,

you know, the writer Yukio Mifima, and I didn't do it for this reason, but they would insist on buying me dinner because I mentioned a Japanese author that, well, I don't know if everyone loves him here, but they are surprised to hear foreigners mention him and so on. But that aside, they always love to talk to foreigners, find out friendly people, and I think the lies are actually malicious when it comes to calling Tokyo the most expensive city in the world. There is a location called Itoya, everyone knows it in Tokyo, it is in part of Ginza. It's said to be, it's a landmark, people meet there because it's said to be the most expensive part of Tokyo. You may have heard newspaper reports from American 1990s.

You drop a newspaper and the size covered by that newspaper is worth $100,000 or something like this. So you have the image of an impossibly expensive place and so on. But it's so much actually cheaper day to day for what you get compared to anywhere in United States. Imagine a $60 or $70 a night hotel in Business Park, central Tokyo, or there are places with, let's say, noodle shops that would be... I don't even know what they would be anymore in New York, Michael, but here it's $8 or $9, and this is even before the yen fell as it did recently. It was it was never as expensive as people say and I think these lies are to get Americans used to being sheared like sheep and be basically abused by every part of American society ripping them off, you know You know It reminds me of you know

One things I talked on the white pill was as the Soviet Union was falling apart Yeltsin who was a prominent You know Russian politician at the time. He later became you know, Gorbachev successor in a sense. He came to a supermarket here in Houston, it's still there, I visited it, and he saw all the food, and he saw these are, these aren't like dignitaries shopping at the supermarket, do you know what I mean? It's like janitors, schoolteachers, housewives, and there's photos of him just shaking his head in shock, like the size of the onions, and just the amount of produce everywhere, and as he was flying back from Miami, he had his head in his hands, and he says to himself, They lie. Like they had to lie or else people would understand how bad it is here.

There's no other alternative. And I don't know if it's malicious. That's our word. I like to use it myself. I don't know if you can use drop the hard M. But the point being it is painfully obvious that It's so avoidable and the other thing is like you talk about costs, okay, I'm gonna be in a smaller hotel room in in Tokyo, but the thing is, I don't have to bear the cost of it being dirty. I don't have to bear the cost of the streets being dirty. I don't have to bear the cost of it being unsafe at night. I don't have to bear the cost of it being difficult to navigate around the city. There's so many costs that I'm not paying, even if we're just looking to non-financial. So, and the rooms are clean. It's, and how much, who needs a big hotel room anyway? It's just a bizarre thing.

You want to be in your hotel room as much as possible. there to explore city, you have a nice big bed, you have a desk, and you have a shower with a bathtub and a bathroom, you know, what else do you need? So I hate being that Facebook girl who, you know, goes to another country and, oh, it changed my life, but it's the thing that you and I, you know, talked about a little bit and which I want to impart to people listening to this is it is it's very unfortunate that having a passport is correlated with being blue tribe in America because travel is such a wonderful way for young people especially young men to understand the world understand humanity understand so many things art culture that it's really sad or that that it's discouraged and even you know even travel more within America

America is gigantic and, you know, you just hit a few cities, you'll realize, wait a minute, you know, this country is, in the literal sense, extremely diverse. Yes, well, I won't talk you this travel on this episode, Michael. I know you have had many adventures abroad, so have I. I think we can share this with audience. The experience you mentioned Yeltsin having, that's a very common one for anyone from East Block coming to western country I think maybe exception Yugoslavia they had relative plenty in their supermarkets there so I hear but anybody else from rest of East block it was stupefied to see American supermarket but I am told by my American friends recently that they had a similar experience leaving America for first

time meeting girls for example in a place like Vienna Austria and they were just amazed, a weight lifted off them, all that girls could be like this, that they could be pleasant and friendly and you could have, you know, and this is not, well, I hear from more than one person, they don't all look like Dolph Lundgren, you know, and they have, it's not even a matter of success, it's just a matter of the heaviness of social life that's been imposed in the United States, especially since 2010 and such, is complete unnatural relations between men and women, but we can talk this later on episode if you want. Wait, hold on. Can I say one thing? Yes. Let me say one thing. One or the other, it speaks to this point specifically about females. I went to Japan with one of my best friends, Steph.

We went to high school together, so we've known each other for 30 years. And at one point I turned to her, I go, isn't it wonderful being in a country where you You don't have to worry about someone bringing up Donald Trump every five minutes? Yes, yes. The polarization in the United States is so insane that I meet many Americans abroad who have moved permanently who are not even right wing. They don't think of themselves this way. They just wanted to get away from this insanity where you bring up Trump or whatever polarization in every conversation, political, it's very hateful atmosphere. But yes, we met Tokyo, we took Waku, Chimbuiya, I took Mr. Melis to Yasukuni Shrine to do ablutions for the spirit of the war dead and pray for destruction of enemies.

I'm joking, Michael, I did not take you to a fascist shrine in Tokyo. But no, the atmosphere is that of the- Vap, hold on a second. Let me say something. Vap, one second. If people go to my Instagram, you will see photos of me next to all the swastikas and I'm on my phone telling them to shut it down. There's swastikas all over Japan. That's a very different connotation. Yes. I remember Korean website. Now the internet has been cleaned. I remember Korean websites from maybe 2007, where they were selling swastika pendants, aiming them at girls, they say you can buy this for your boyfriend, and it's an ancient symbol that has meant different things to different people. This is how they said it, it made me laugh.

But it's no laughing matter, apparently, in New York, where a Congresswoman, I think, to a Korean shop in Brooklyn that was selling swastika earrings and she shut it down for real. I mean, you were joking, but she really, uh, it was a Congresswoman or Congressman, but yes, for real, they shut down this Buddhist store in, you know, it's that crazy. Uh, speaking of New York, oh my God, it's disgusting. Yeah. Uh, Tokyo, uh, real city. It's clean and yet still exciting. it's not totally antiseptic and people have fun and so on. But New York, I've heard... Wait, hold on. Let me make a point here because you made something that's not a big lie. They made it seem, and my understanding is maybe Singapore is like this, so I can't speak on that.

I've never been to Singapore. They make it seem in the propaganda that Japan is like a hospital. That when they say clean, it's sterile, it's soulless, and you know everyone, it's not like that at all. You can't eat off the floor, you know what I mean? There's still some debris, so it still feels like a city, not filthy. It's cleaned by city standards, but it's not inhumane like they make it out to be. The propaganda really is this is like a city full of robots, and it's 180 degrees from the truth. No, it's very free. It's very fun. It's full of young people enjoying themselves and not actually feeling constrained, but there are cities like that that are antiseptic. Actually, later on this episode, I want to talk to you about this blight

of, especially in Europe, cities that have become theme parks. I don't know Dresden, but But Budapest has changed, it was an interesting wild city in the early 2000s, and now at least its center is completely plastic, Disney-fied, and there are cities like this. Are you serious? Yes, I found it. Because when I was looking at my next place to travel, being from Brooklyn, I googled hipster Europe, and they all said the most hipster city is Budapest, that you have these bars made out of like old blown up tunnels or whatever, that it's really, really cool and hip and it's still not as popular. So to hear that they've made it like, you know, Times Square became made, Giuliani, like a complete tourist corporate hell, that's very disheartening to hear. It's been absolutely tamed. They're trying

to do it to Paris. Paris is resisting. There are very few cities in Europe left that haven't been turned into this walkable nice you know mall Disney experience for Chinese tourists and I'm afraid they work very hard or ban who I otherwise liked worked very hard to turn Budapest into this but I'd like to talk these kind of differences between cities on this episode in some detail I think could be of quite used to audience what I wanted to ask you about New York because I've I've heard people go back and forth, you just mentioned Times Square having been Disneyfied like that, and as New York became cleaner and safer in the 2000s under Giuliani and then Bloomberg, there were grumblings from artsy types that it's not what it had been. I lived there for a year in the 2000s.

I found it to be a fun place, but indeed it was quite a safe city, let me put it that way. not what I had expected watching, you know, this movie after hours, Scorsese After Hours about Soho in the 1980s, and I love this movie. I think it's Scorsese's best movie. What do you think about that? This is what I wanted to ask you. What do you think about that New York? Did you know that New York? Can it come back? Is it worth having that back? What do you think? So, I mean, this is the kind of thing where, you know, Henry Haslett has this book called Economics in One lesson and he talks about good economics and bad economics and he talks about like for example there's this you know economic fallacy that if I'm a shopkeeper and you break my window and I have to buy a new window well

that's economic growth because now I you know paid for window so that's $40 whatever the window costs into the economy and that's bad economics and he says good economics saying well wait a minute that $40 is also lost because I could have had my window and $40 of sweaters or $40 of cocaine or $40 of books, right? So there is very much an enormous amount of charm to the pre-Giuliani New York, but what you're not seeing in these movies is the complete danger that was pervasive. You know, I was a high school kid before Giuliani came in. He was inaugurated January 1st, 1994. I graduated high school in 94. So before that there would be these groups of teenagers who would go through the subway train by train and if you had like a bulge in

your pocket for a Walkman or wallet they would shake you down and rob you and it wasn't just for young kids like me they would do this and this was just a given it was a given and this is something that sounds crazy to Americans it was a given like your house is gonna get broken into like that happened all the time so yeah I agree there's but when you have that high level of crime you also have high levels of culture because poor young kids don't have anything to steal they can tolerate the crime but then they can create little communities so that's the cost and the benefits but the costs are very very high and to live in a city that is fundamentally unsafe does take a psychological impact on you Yes. Well, I don't know. My thoughts on this have somewhat...

You're also a big dude. It's not the same. I mean, it's different for you than other people. Well, you know, okay, so New York, you say, had all of these problems. I've heard of this. Yes, the youths on subways. I'm sure it's very bad. But isn't the heart of a city, the ideal of a city, people have this image in 1920s Paris, communities of artists and so on. How can you have in soulless corporate slave city like Budapest has turned into or these other, how can you have anything other but a glorified work camp? I don't know. I'm not saying, I don't see the downsides of crime, of danger. No, because how you have it is you basically have it as almost like concentric circles, right? So in the center, not a literal center, but you'll have these high-income soulless areas.

Then you'll have the little ones that border that, where it's like up and coming. And then you'll have even more marginal areas, which is what Williamsburg was, what Park Slope was back in the day, you know, the village back in the day. So you have these pockets where maybe you have a tiny little studio apartment which is half an hour away from where the rich corporate soulless stuff is. But that's where you make, Greenpoint is another example, that's where Bushwick, these are scenes where young people who can, maybe they don't need as much sleep so they can commute more as someone who has a family or something like that, where they create these, and you find these little bars where everyone is going to be in the same socio-economic level,

which is poor but young and hungry, and that's where the kind of magic happens, I think. Yes, no, you're right, you're right. There are complete downsides to filth danger cities. Have you been to Brazil? Have you ever been to Brazil? I have not. It's Rio, well that's Argentina. Brazil is definitely on my list, you know, like a lot of South America. I went to Venezuela when I was a kid before it became, you know, a hellscape as it is now, and I thought it's absolutely amazing, but I was a kid too. Yes, I heard nice things about the old Venezuela, how it's been wrecked recently is very interesting, you know, the Lebanese. Now everyone talking about the Lebanese, the Palestinians, and other Middle Easterners. They run the economies of Central America and Northern

South America. They also do in much of the West Africa. They become middlemen, minorities. Venezuela I think is only 10 to 15 percent white of of which many of the richest families are Lebanese. And it's very interesting situations there because they ran much of oil industry, but then Chavez come in, and who is his successor? I forget, or am I, yeah, Hugo Chavez, and then he has a successor, I forget. He looked like- Madero, isn't it Madero? Yeah, Madero, a bus driver, Madero. And apparently it can get, people always say collapse will come and the government will fall. Well, you look at Venezuela, it can get really, really bad as long as you pay salaries of your security services, it just keeps going. But it's also interesting because this regime

has since the days of Hugo Chavez demonized white people. It was not much reported in news, but it was explicitly racially mobilized. Chavez considered himself part of the Pardo underclass, and he was their representative, their leader against white exploitation by the white minority. And the only attention this ever got was some articles that he was being anti-Semitic which in a sense you can claim he was he was also attacking the Jews but he wasn't just attacking them he was attacking all white people in in Venezuela and I found it a bit unfair that the only attention this got was oh this isn't possible because only white people can be racist yes yes yes it's not like he has any institutional power yes yeah well exactly

and uh it's it's it's very uh it's very unusual situation um because you have this retired uh this retired government uh that's complete racist you you know i mean you're joking about it but But everyone knows what they are and what the government of Bolivia under Evo Morales had very similar ideology. But even though they bullied all the white minorities, whether Lebanese, Jewish, or other European whites, there was not so much out-migration because they had such a high standard of living to start with, the richer white people, I mean, in Venezuela, that who wants to leave that climate? It's a bit too hot for me, but that climate, and you have servants, and this, and so despite how bad it gets, you have much out-migration of poorer Venezuelans,

and less so, I hear that moving lately to Miami, the richer Venezuelans, but it's still amazing how they can keep a country together despite the white spread collapse, you know. Isn't this similar to what's happening in South Africa, that the whites are increasingly being demonized? And in that case, they have at least much more of a basis to make this claim. And it's kind of a boiling of boiling the frog situation where, you know, things are getting and I think there's explicit calls from I know there's some kind of radical political party where they're I don't know if they're calling for literally killing the whites, but it's certainly expropriation and some kind of extreme vindictiveness. And it's only escalating. Malema is calling for killing whites. His party is calling for that.

And yet people don't leave in these countries. I don't know if the climate plus the fact that you have servants, that one thing having servants changes quality of life so much that a lot of these white elites from tropical countries will just not leave no matter how much they're demonized. The only ones I've seen take very firm action lately in the last, let's say, 10, 20 years or so, were the ones in Bolivia, and I think that's because they are barbaric Croatian balconoids. So Bolivia divided into two parts, and the rich part is Santa Cruz in the east, and it's populated by Croatians, and they basically were trying to rule the government and they have a low-key separatist movement because they don't want to be dominated by the mass of natives under Morales and so forth.

But it's a strange trajectory, Michael, I don't know, they at least make an effort, but the other, let me not be racist, the other elites of whatever type in these tropical countries with populist, nativist, racist, frankly, movements, they don't make an effort to leave, you know, or take over the country. That was also like 1930s Germany, where these like very, very rich Jews were just kind of eye rolling. And well, when Hitler's talking about this stuff, he doesn't mean us. And it got worse and worse, and they could have jobs, but for some of them, it's just like, I'm not, you're not kidding. I'm not leaving this country. And then it was too late, obviously. Yes. I don't think Mexico will go quite such an extreme way as Bolivia or Venezuela did.

But in Mexico, this new president, I forget her name, she's a cunt bitch. Oh, she's a leftist state elected? They elected, excuse to be not politically correct, Michael, I can be less naughty, but They elected a factory-made, crazy Jewish leftist bitch who starts to talk about ending Spanish colonialism and asking Spain for an apology. But she's not the first to do this. I mean, Evo Morales did the same in Bolivia. He had some ceremony where he turned his back proudly on the Spanish flag and called for a decolonization of Bolivia and for adopting the native calendar and so on. So there is this aim of the left in South America and Central America, the Puebla group is, people should look this up, the Foro São Paulo, they've been organizing in this direction

I think for quite some decades, and they were supported by Obama by the way. And I think Bukele actually is very interesting case of the opposite happening where you have, in his case, a Palestinian, but these are the prominent white elites in South and Central America, often Palestinian or Lebanese. But although he started as a leftist, he basically took over this country and tried to go in in different direction than this leftist de-civilization of lunacy that is going on. And it always has an explicitly racist basis, but it's not much discussed in news in the United States, you know? Well, I'm extremely glad to be informed by this by you, because like you said, I hadn't heard of any of this. Because I heard, okay, they elected a Jewish woman, and I thought she was a conservative.

I honestly thought this, because I had been understanding that the previous government, which was very corrupt, was leftist, so therefore I thought the alternative was going to be of a Kelly kind of nationalist type. So to find out she's even more leftist, and what's even more heartbreaking is I've been meaning for a while now to go to Mexico City, which is apparently like a new Brooklyn, in the same way Berlin, you know, was the new Brooklyn. I'm using Brooklyn as a shorthand for a city where there's lots of young cultural things happening that are off the radar of the New York Times, but you could still kind of really find magic there at a formal price and just really treasure your time there. So to find that this is who they put in is very depressing.

Well, she may not have power to change things. Actually, I'm sorry to derail a pleasant, supposed to be pleasant episode on travel. I also like Mexico City. We take short breaks and we talk more pleasant things if you want, but I don't know how far she will be able to ruin Mexico. A lot depends on how society reacts to this, and it can range from Bukele, who very in authoritarian manner takes things back from this de-civilizational process, to Bolivia where they are trying to but they barely can, but they did oust Morales in a coup, to, if you remember during, I think it was Obama, first term, I don't remember exactly, or first or second term, but I think Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, and Honduras had a military coup, which she immediately condemned,

and it was exactly the same thing going on, that the same dynamic, I mean, where you had a leftist president who was trying to rile up population against, they called them the turcos. This was, in that case, Syrian Christians, I believe, who were basically run the Honduras economy, and he was this populist racist demagogue trying to say, you know, they shouldn't do that or let's take their things, and the military stepped in, put him on a plane, cooed him, and eventually it was shown that they were by the Honduran constitution in the right to do that. But this process, this back and forth, of course, it's been going on for a long time in South America, leftist populist demagogues versus coups carried out by the military and the middle class.

But it's taken a very racial, explicitly racial, I mean, narrative, whatever you want to call it in the last 10, 20 years since, at least since Chavez, and it's not much reported on in US media. I'm sorry to spurg out about this, Michael, we weren't supposed to talk about this, but... No, no, no, no, this is not a spurg at all. And you know what I would bet? I would bet a lot of these elites in these countries got educated at American or Western universities, because that's where they get these ideas. It's not really native in the sense that, you know, these countries are very diverse in an accurate sense, not like in the, you know, American sense where we have a board meeting there's a black person there it's not just too it's very although people from all

over right and they get along mostly there's some level of social stratification and so on and so forth but it's not this kind of like you very very correctly said Obama idea you know white suppressors everyone else is screwed so we have to have this kind of historical retribution uh against the whites this this comes out of the university system and it's uh uh horrifically evil yes and there's no way it ends well for anybody yes I I think very real danger of things if Trump doesn't come in which actually let me ask you this not supposed to be political show but you think you think Trump win you think Trump win now in the election is in what three weeks you think he wins I said weeks ago July that he had in the bag I'd give him I said 80% now I give him

90% chance and I I think it's very important for those of us in this space to look at data and try to make predictions off of that as opposed to what we want to happen because that's a very easy way to misguide things one way or another and all I could think of is this this it is as I said in Rogan literal retard. You're the senator from California. You have Silicon Valley and Hollywood funding your campaign in 2020 and you couldn't even make Iowa? Yes. I mean, if you think about what, and your sister has to run your campaign, think about what a fuck up you have to be for that to happen, number one. Number two is she has never been competitive. You and I, if I sat down with Dana Bash, the CNN lady, and Dana Bash asked me those questions that Kamala Harris got asked, I could

have, I and everyone else I know who's a podcaster could have done a better job giving her answers as her than she did it was completely inexcusable and unconscionable whoever trained her for that debate should get a medal because that was a complete outlier and masterpiece and she goaded him very well but other than that i'm watching this i'm like i can give her answers off top my head no preparation easier than her it's not hard So I think she has no capacity for connecting with people. No one likes working with her. Here's the, I've said this a lot. People went to jail for Hillary Clinton, literally. There were people who refused to testify against her. They said, you're going to go to jail. They said, I'm going to go to jail. Because they were scared of her and they loved her.

No one's scared of this bitch and no one loves this bitch. So I don't see it at all. The only way I could see it happening is if this is 2022 again, right? and all the polls are like red, red, red. And then at the last minute, the Dems basically pull it out. Yes, the Republicans still won the house in 2022, but it was supposed to be a huge landslide. Other than that, Bap, here's the other thing. This is the first time since 2000 that the Republican candidate has consistently led in the polls. So this could be a complete outlier. And I think it's very hard to, here's the other point. If you and I were talking a year ago, And if I had said Mark Zuckerberg is gonna go on TV and say nice things about Trump and have zero repercussions, I would have sounded like a crazy person.

He was that radioactive. If someone just went on Twitter and said, you know what, I like Trump's ties, they'd get fired. Because unless you're talking 25-8 about how he's literally Hitler and the worst thing that ever happened to America, worse than slavery, you're a Trump supporter in their heads. So he's become not radioactive anymore. Lots of people in Silicon Valley and elsewhere said they support him. They haven't had their lives ruined, which was unthinkable a year ago. And here's the other thing, let's assume she's the perfect candidate. Would you want to put together a presidential campaign overnight? It's a nightmare. Yes. Well, I get the same sense as you do. I'm not in the United States. When you are in a country, you get much more of a feel of what will happen.

I can only guess from seeing things online, but I agree with what you say and especially knowing this bizarre woman who is so unpleasant. You say she won the debate against Trump. There is no winning that she can do because she's just so abrasive and unpleasant to watch. I don't think black men, for example, like Kamala, even they, racial loyalty aside, of course I think they will turn out majority for her by how much. She's just such a deeply unpleasant person. You know, with Biden, at least plausibly, they could say he is, he plays to the upper Midwest, which was Trump's strength to the union vote and so on. But really those, you know, in the unions that have always endorsed a Democrat candidate are not endorsing her this time, you know. So yes, I think Trump has a good chance.

The reason I bring up, I think, he must win, Michael, because the Pueblo group that I just talked about, this union of South and Central American Leftism, is not just native to South America. You hinted about American universities. I don't think there's a central committee that meets somewhere that directs all of their actions. But if people want to talk conspiracy, this is very much a some type of coordinated thing between various leftist groups in the Americas. And Obama was very much part of this. And if Trump doesn't win, America also, I think, will go down this. already started under Obama and Kamala Biden, I believe, but it will very much go accelerated down this path of racial anti-white mobilization in the name of international racial socialism and so on.

So I think Trump must win, or it will get very ugly, very bad in the United States. One of the things I tweeted out in 2021, which is not a particularly brilliant insight, it's pretty obvious, but that the lockdowns and COVID gave some very, very evil people, some very, very useful information about the limits of American submission and what they would put up with, right? And it wasn't just America, it was literally every country had that data. you see them cashing it in in England, and you saw them cashing it in in Canada. And as a history buff, I look back at Woodrow Wilson and the Great War and the totalitarian authoritarianism he implemented in the United States. Well, that was in the name of this huge war to save the world, right? So you can understand theoretically that argument.

So then when FDR comes in and he's like, look, we have a Great Depression. This is even more of an existential threat than a war in Europe. So he's just going to do everything Wilson did again. You know, if we went through it once, we could do it again, right? So once the Band-Aids ripped off, and once people have been acclimated to certain levels of authoritarianism, it's really easy the second time. You know what I mean? If your husband beats you once, we've crossed the line. Second time, it's just role-playing, right? So that is my very, very big concern going forward. And we see it every day now on TV. Hillary Clinton, there's this shit lib activist called Carlos Menza, whatever his name is, talking about free speech being a problem. This is, they were saying this, by the way,

people don't remember, I'm a little older than some people, in 2016, Hillary Clinton was complaining about fake news and all the bad things on the internet and we have to put a stop to it. And then they were getting their ducks in a row. The good thing, the thing you could say about leftists to their credit is once they get an idea in their head, they're relentless. They will, they're like a pit bull with a baby. They're not letting go. So they've been waiting for a long time to try, Tim Walz talks about this all the time, that the Constitution doesn't protect hate speech. The fuck are you talking about? But they don't care. They'll just say what they need to do to get what they want. So that is something I'm extremely concerned about. Yes.

is for a while and I am also concerned given the lockdown what they will do with climate change. But look, these are subject for more political this episode. I think maybe we talk nice travel stories and I've been keeping you for a while on this segment. What do you say we take a quick smoke break and come back? I want to talk to you about Mexico City and other such thing, what you think. Very good. Yes, we'll be right back. We are back with international provocateur and writer of freedom, Michael Mallis. Michael, You have long defended human freedom and you were talking on last segment about the decline in respect for freedom of speech, especially freedom of thought among leftists in the United States. Of course, they've long been that way.

And I found students, for quite a while, as very depressing. students almost are, from the point of view of freedom, want to put a gun to their head, pull the trigger. Not all students, of course, but as the student body has, let's say, changed because of, let's say, diverse—I don't want to be too impolite, Michael, but as it's changed, the respect for freedom has gotten much less, and I think maybe a majority of college students today, for example, would say that freedom of speech is some kind of oppressive, exploitative construct. So it's very depressing what they'll do with this, and in the future also with climate change restrictions, maybe ban air conditioning, put a gun, civilization putting a gun to its But these are very big political problems.

Obviously, in one's life, you can't hope to solve them. And so as an individual, what you do, and I found great joy in travel to escape in part from this. I know maybe motivation is similar for you, but you find out that travel has many advantages. positive excitements all of its own. If you are ever jaded, I knew older men. He is schizophrenic in his, must be in his 60s by now. He is a good friend of mine. I try to have him on this show, but if he's schizophrenic, sometimes they overmedicate him and lobotomize his wit, which is otherwise very great. But he told me he was jaded. He had been hoarding in this country and that. But then he traveled to South Africa and just seeing Table Mountain overlooking Cape Town, seeing it from airplane made a hard thud in his chest very powerfully

and woke him up out of his jadedness. I found this very rousing story because this man is complete loose degenerate, but travel can rouse even someone depressed like that out of their stupor. And so even if people travel for, they want to get away from something, or they think a situation in their home country oppressive or heavy, once you do it, it really opens a realm of supra-political, I would say, freedom. Michael, past this long introduction, Michael, I wanted to ask you about, we mentioned Mexico City, which we are afraid might be destroyed. Can I address what you just said? Can I address your long speech? You made a lot of very germane points. My great hero, Camille Paglia, has referred to the contemporary American university system as institutionalized neurosis.

And I really is a total psyop in that I think it's almost impossible, or not impossible, extremely difficult, to show up at a college campus, like a prominent college, and not leave without some kind of mental disorder. In the same way that if you or I were put in jail for four years, we're not coming out as the same person, even if everyone we were with was nice, we were never harmed, it's still going to do a number on us, right? If you go to war for four years, even if you're not, you know, under threat at any point of death in a literal sense, just hypothetically, it's gonna change you. So I think what travel does, and I don't think this is the thing that's kind of scary. You know, I always make the joke that there's two kinds of countries, America and shitholes. When you go to some

of these other countries, young people are a lot happier, and you see it. You see it on the streets, you see it on the transportation system, wherever you go around. They're smiling, a good time enjoying themselves and it makes you realize wait a minute what's happening in America is you know like everyone who grows up in their family and they think I don't my voice just broke I guess I went to puberty you think your family is just like how every family is and then at a certain age you're like wait a minute mom's this or dad's that this is not normal we think America is like every everything's like this and we're taught this as well that basically every country is pretty much the same they just maybe wear different clothes listen to music but there's

no real difference between America and Lebanon and South Korea and South Africa and Turkmenistan. And then you go to these other countries you're like oh okay they're doing a number on the kids here. I mean young people by kids and also the literal kids unfortunately. And it doesn't have to be that way and that when you see with your own eyes is a real shock. Yes it is and you say you like Mexico City. I am curious about your experience. By the way, I've never been there. What I was saying to you is I was very excited to go because my understanding was it's what Brooklyn, the ideal of Brooklyn used to be. So I can't wait to go and since I'm in Austin now, it's quite close. Well yes, after the pandemic and as it was ending, especially because Mexico

didn't lock down too hard, but many, many people ended up going to Mexico and because of the price. Mexico City is not dangerous, you know, people have image of it from what that movie with Denzel where he's killing everybody in Mexico City to save a little girl. It's not quite like that, that you get kidnapped. One problem with Mexico City is whether it's the altitude, people say it's the altitude, but I think it's actually the pollution. Around day three, I started to get kind of queasy and bad headache, and it went away kind of. And then around, but then it returned around day eight or nine with a very strong feeling of oppression. And I was staying in nice hotel and so forth, but they said that rooms were, you know,

filter air or whatever you want to call it, but whether it's the altitude or this other thing, it's very hard. I find that part hard to get used to, but aside from that, it's a pleasant part, and I think there are areas like what you say full of young Americans, especially young artsy Americans who have moved there recently. Yeah, and it's also big and somewhat walkable, So I can't wait to go. The central parts are walkable and outside the central parts, I don't think there's much to see. I wanted to tell audience, by the way, on unrelated matter. Usually when I have guests on show, because I am a spur though, I have a touch of the tism. Because of that, I drink. I usually drink bottle of something. I drink bottle of champagne.

However, I'm not drinking on this episode because I saw one of your compatriots recently, Michael, a Russian woman, and they use alcohol to scarify your liver and poison you. And I basically have to go into rehab and detox. And so I cannot touch alcohol for some time. I can't drink. So this I apologize to audience if I have hesitating affect in this show and I talk like a spur though You know, yeah, I think you're you're being more self-conscious than you need to be but I do blame you personally also for the lifestyle of your Women from Russia who behave in this manner with with alcohols, you know They're no joke. They'll drink you under the table and laugh about it it yes I don't know very knobs key has a long paragraph about them that you

either have to make them your slave or they make you their slave and either way you lose you know I don't know if this is accurate but they are your compatriots and I don't mean to tax them for this but look well Mexico City I I will list the neighborhoods that are nice where later in the episode if you want if people are curious, but what other cities have you enjoyed Michael? So what I used to do before COVID and still to some extent I have a fairly big group of friends so we would plan these bro trips where like let's get us a bunch of people together, pick a city at random, not a random but just you know something that we would like, and also not have an agenda. I think a big mistake people have when traveling is, I have to see these 10 things. My suggestion, and I would love

to hear your feedback as well, Bap, is have like one thing a day, right? And have that one most important thing. So as long as you get that taken care of, you could be like, all right, my trip was a success. Because if you don't see that fourth museum or if you don't see that one thing, it really becomes, the trip becomes a job. Whereas the trip should be hanging out, you're on vacation, stop, you know, especially with the internet, you can go to these places virtually. It's not the same of course, but it's not like you're literally, you know, like, oh my god, my life's ruined. So I hate that when people plan these trips. I'll tell you some of the trips I did. We went to Montreal, we went to Toronto, this is before COVID of course.

Just recently in March, I think it was, me and a couple of high school friends, we just drove through New Mexico. We hit Albuquerque and there's an artist colony that I'm completely blanking on the name. We stayed a night there and it was a shithole. Like New Mexico, there's no reason to go back, but it's fun when you're with people you care about. Here's the thing, what I think people need to appreciate. if you view life in this kind of Albert Camus, life is absurd kind of way, a bad experience is almost as good as a good experience because then you have a story. Do you know what I mean? Like you could reminisce about the time we went to that restaurant and they 20 minutes to get us seated and then they got the order wrong and then they yelled at us because the order was

wrong. Like if the worst thing that happens to you is if your meal is not that good, you're living in an utopia, you know what I mean? So, I think things like this, having experiences really shape you as a human being, give you perspective, and it's also a great way to, Taos is the outer scholarly, is a great way to bond with your friends because when you travel with people, I'm sure this is some kind of social animal dog whisperer kind of thing, pack, you know, migration, you create these bonds that really last a long time. We did Miami, we did Providence in boston uh i was just what here's another thing i recommend people do my birthday was this past july and i'm like you know what i don't want to be bouncing off the walls here in austin i'm just

going to take a weekend trip so i went with my friend jackie we spent uh like three or four days in chicago i was shocked by how much i liked it i was shocked because you hear chicago murder chicago murder chicago murder all the crime is localized it's not like new york where the the criminals are traveling throughout the city. When you were where I was, it was 2am, it was perfectly fine and safe. And I loved it. Really, as a New Yorker, to like Chicago is like someone just slapped me. It was an amazing time. I've heard many people say Chicago is one of America's most beautiful cities and more beautiful than New York. I don't know, I've never been. You mentioned Taos, New Mexico. I knew a frog, online anonymous spergoloid from there. He was telling me about their unusual New Mexico foods,

stuffed smothered sopapilla and other such thing. I've always wanted to visit, not for the Mexican Tex-Mex food, but I believe the sands there, the desert, hold, it remind, I think they're alien. I think the alien presence there. I don't think the Roswell comes from outer space. It comes from inside the Earth. There is a base underneath I want to see very much. And I've never seen the southwest United States. Yeah, you know, Argentina, there are parts of South America that are very similar to North America. So the coast of Chile is very, the southern coast especially, very similar to the Pacific Northwest, kind of temperate rainforest, very similar climate. In the same way, in North Argentina, there is a region around the city called Salta that

looked like the American Southwest, I am told, and it's a wine-growing region. The reason I think of it now, Michael, is you've heard of this man, Doug Casey, he also fellow libertarian like you, if I can say. You know him? You've heard of him? I have heard him. I'm not a libertarian, but go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean... Well, he is libertarian. I've had sex once. Oh, ha ha ha. Well, he is libertarian hardcore. He built a compound that's very well known throughout South America. A libertarian compound. And he chose this area because, you know, they are paranoid. They believe there will be global breakdown. And they wanted to have water and food within 50 miles. But it's actually, it's not survivalist. It's a very elegant, nice housing development, not compound, you can say.

I don't recommend that people buy there because he apparently upmarked the land by 100 times, but he does get libertarians to buy from him. But I was always interested in this kind of region, southwest landscape. I think we could make our own compound New Mexico or Arizona. I mean, not that you would be interested in something like this, but I would be in a training center of some type. But look, that's for another time. Well, let me just add one thing to this. It is a part of the United States where it's easy to get lost as a person and vanish. I don't mean in a negative way like someone kidnaps you, but like, this used to be the thing, people who are younger don't appreciate who grew up with the internet. There used to be a time, especially like in the 70s,

where people would just disappear. Not in the sense that they were killed, but they're like, I'm sick of my life. I'm just gonna move to St. Louis or whatever the hell. No one's ever gonna know what happened to me. And this was a thing. And you see this kind of in these old movies where people just go away and you have some. And it's harder and harder on social media and cell phones and things like this. But if I was wanted to vanish as an American, the Southwest definitely has that kind of, still that feeling of, you know, where's everybody? Obviously, there's the big cities, but you could really get that sense of it's a huge percentage of the area is not developed and and still mysterious, like you said. I'm afraid when you say this to vanish, Michael,

because I know movie, I think it's called Vanished, was Dutch movie and it's remade. And do you know this movie? It's in some kind of similar landscape and he get captured and buried alive by this kind serial killer. I am afraid of when you say it's- Yeah, but you sleep in a coffin anyway. Yeah, people say that they have never seen me during daylight. I think also, but listen, I wanted to comment on what you said about traveling and feeling the need to check off boxes. Obviously, that's a wrong way to travel. That's the way a Chinese tourist travel or a woman, it's intolerable seeing women take photograph of themselves they can only experience through photo selfies that they take in front of everything I don't think they get any experience of any

place it's only take selfies to show people I've seen people women do this psychotically I don't know what's wrong with these cunts I've seen one point a phone at the crowd and she was running I've seen they take photos of themselves now in front of these Montclair or Gucci store which you can find in any city these mass-produced luxury stores and you go to Madrid or Paris there is always some some roasty taking photo of herself in front of the Gucci store it's depressing to see of course any variation of that you shouldn't do oh I have to see all the landmarks it becomes a chore another thing that becomes a chore is the so-called passport bros. I've seen some non-posters complain about this. These are stereotypically men who travel, well, let's say they just travel for sex hours,

right? Now, meeting, let's say, a girl or whatever on trip, that can be a nice advantage, But when you travel just to satisfy that, let's say sex tourism, that's a very depressing thing to do, I think. If it's not sure, it just becomes a bleak, grey time. I've spoken to many travelers. That should never be done with number one priority in mind. I need to go there to satisfy this urge. By the way, it's not just sex. If you travel somewhere, oh, I have to try the food that I've heard, of course in Tokyo the food is very good in Japan or in Paris, everyone knows, but if you travel there for purely culinary adventure or sex tourist or to satisfy any urge like that, as opposed to the pleasure of discovering a new place, I think that also puts a darkness on any travel.

I'm delighted to hear you say that because you are a Bronze Age pervert and I think a a lot of young men have this idea that if I go to Thailand, if I go to the city, or they grew up on Red Pill message boards or certain authors, and they have this idea of like, oh, I'm not gonna be my fellow Americans, I'm gonna go to these countries and plow whatever and have these awesome stories that when they think I'm a badass, and on some level, yeah, it's a badass thing to do, but I'll tell people, it's a lot more fun when you have someone with you to take these trips and to go there for the purpose of getting laid. And also, if that is your only goal, that shit gets old fast. I've never done sex toys, so let me be clear, but anyone I know who's done this, it's so much better on paper than it is,

because we need connections as human beings, and it's really kind of sick that it's discouraged to say this sort of thing, and connections, Friendships and romantic ones are both essential, I think, to our natures and very, very, very fulfilling. You know, just every man is going to have, you know, his compatriots and his lady and all this other stuff. So I'm very gratified to hear you warn people about this, because it sounds, it has this mystique, and then this is the kind of thing where you look back and you're like, okay, like, what have I gotten out of this, you know? Yes, I have to say, I mean, I agree with everything you just said, but I have to say I do enjoy travel alone. I enjoy telling strange stories about why I have come to your country to search for

this war criminal and things like that. One story I like is, I've said it before, I excuse to repeat, but I'm here to hunt down my sister's husband who murdered my sister and this kind of thing. Can I say something? This is really, really fun. So I say this line all the time. So a lot of times people will recognize my face and they won't be able to place it. And they're like, oh, wait a minute. I know you. And I'll either say two things. I'll either say I'm Lex Friedman and like, oh, okay. Or this happened to me. I was at the airport here in Austin. And it's at the part of the airport where they look through your passport at the boarding pass before they set you through. And there was a guy and two people behind him, a lady and I remember a third person.

And the guy goes, oh, hey, uh, oh, it's you. I love your work. And the lady goes to him, who is that? I go, oh, I'm the guy who shot up pulse. And he just laughed and she just got a little confused. But whenever people ask me who I am, I always say I'm the guy who shot up pulse. No, this, this could, uh, yes. Unfortunately, normal fags from around the world having similar biology, no matter what race they are, and similar mental profile end up responding to such provocations in very similar ways. And so it doesn't matter what I say after a while. I am here to look for a satanic book that was lost in your country. Eventually, their responses are always more or less the same, and I get jaded with that also. Wait, hold on, hold on, but this is such a great and efficient, I disagree with you,

a great and efficient filter because within seconds you know if this person is worth talking to and when you find that one person responds correctly and they're going to really bond with you instantly, you have a travel buddy or someone, a native, who would be like, alright, let me show you the time of your life. Yes. Well, it's true, you can meet friends this way also, but as Schopenhauer say, after a while, the kaleidoscope carnival of people becomes just a repetition of the same story. I don't want to say that, this is a happy show, I don't want to say depressing. No, no, but Beth, isn't it what's Sturgeon's law, that 80% of everything is shit? Yes, yes, I guess. So you find the 20% this way, so four out of five times, which is a lot, it's going to be a waste of time.

But then you find the fifth one, you know? Yes. No, I think you're right. But look, I want to get concrete for a moment, since we are perhaps giving audience travel advice of sorts. So in Mexico City, I would recommend when you go, the neighborhood Roma is well known, and Condesa, they're close to each other. And these are very pleasant, walkable in the right way, more on this in a moment. It doesn't mean there are no cars, but you can walk them. And it's full of international crowd, but also nice locals. But yes, it has attracted young, let's say, not just artsy, but also the crypto type crowd, which is a mixed whatever. but it's attracted a variety of people, let me put it that way. And then in other parts of Mexico during a pandemic, right at the end,

this place Tulum, which I've never been to but it was extremely popular at the end of the pandemic. On the previous segment, I brought up Brazil. Why I do that? Because it's a good example of what you were talking about, cities that should be centers of youth travel or of artsy people because they are cheap. For example, Rio de Janeiro has very nice architecture in some parts of it. I would say if you are in your 20s, the area in between the famous beaches of Copacabana and Ipanema in that area is extreme fun, some of the most fun you can have in your life. But yet, if you go there lately, it's mostly abandoned. It supports what you are saying, Michael, about the dirt in New York previously. It's just become too dangerous, too dirty.

And the first to disappear in that situation are foreign, attractive girls. They don't feel safe, they don't show up, and that basically kills the place. But yes, it becomes too inhospitable, those cities, although I do think they are naturally endowed to be this, whereas Mexico City, we'll see the way it turns out under this new leftist government, maybe she can't ruin it, but it has been pleasant for the last few years. I want to ask you if you have other knowledge of other such cities abroad or recommendations to give audience. I have a couple more to recommend. I have the ultimate travel hack and I'm happy to share it. For me it's at 100% success rate. Whenever I go to a new city, I go to the weird ice cream store. That weird ice cream store is going to be in the cool neighborhood.

correlation is almost is perfect because it's going to be off the beaten path but where the things that are fun and interesting and new are happening so that right away instead of trying to figure out googling oh hip neighborhood or cool neighborhood just go find the ice cream place that has those weird flavors you're going to be in an area that you want to explore and I got to tell you as a former New Yorker, it's for me there's this great lyric by this band Saini Tien where they go, I like the feeling of being slightly lost to be in a city and like walking around and okay here's a side street and what's going on through here without having an agenda like oh I'm gonna pop in the store what they sell here okay they sell rubber bands okay let me you know what I mean

having that Explorer sense even though it's not exactly the frontier it's you a very well-established urban area, it's still a very fun way to spend time, especially if you're with people and they're like, oh, let's check this out. Sure. Why not? It's the time of your life. And I really also think it's very important that when you travel, you clear the deck insofar as possible from any ship back home. None of this, I got to worry about work or I got to check in with this person or that person. You're there to not think about it. So if you have to do some extra work the week before to really clear the deck and you don't have it hanging over your head, it makes it really feel like it's like a new life. Yes, you may also want to embezzle tens

of thousands of dollars from your company and run to one of the places we're talking about, like Indonesia, which has no extradition treaty with the United States. And especially if you're you're running out on alimony on a wife you don't want to pay, that's one of the places in the world where you can hang out and they will not extradite for that kind of thing. I don't know why I thought of that. I do know why I thought of that, because while you were talking about this, I remembered a story about a chad. He was a man with a goatee and a tropical shirt who had run away from his alimony wife, but actually was arrested upon entering United States to attend the wedding of a friend. But he was hiding in Indonesia smartly to not be arrested on this. I don't know why I bring this up, Michael.

I thought about this. I've always wanted to run away to a non-extradition country to escape alimony from a bitch wife. You got to give the bitch a wife first. Yes. You're doing it backwards. Yes, I guess. Look, the reason I ask about, I'm glad you brought up Mexico City before and that you want to visit it because you heard good things. I wish that the cities of Brazil, it's not just Sao Paulo and Rio, there's Fortaleza and Salvador and others. It could be one of the best places in the world and yet it's, let's say, depopulated of many interesting tourists it could have. So I want to find places in the world, Michael, that's full of interesting young people. Why do I mention young? I am tired or I travel in a new place and it's a kind of boomer.

It's Chinese tourists and women and boomers and fat boomers and slovenly fat boomers taking photos. And it's a depressing sight. There are parts of, you know, Lisbon has become this in the last year or two. It's just Disney Fight Boomer and Crypto Bro also, but Boomer tourist theme park. If you go to Paris, excuse me, if you go to Paris, the famous street, the Champs-Élysées, which was 20 years ago, maybe magical place still, and now it feels like airport terminal again. Exactly. This crowd, you know, people have this image that it's homeless, tent cities and Muslims praying, but actually the real blight of Paris is that certain parts of it are this, what I'm saying now, armies of disgusting slovenly tourists. So you go to a famous cafe in Paris,

you know, Cafe Floré or something, this is not on the Champs-Élysées, but it's a famous cafe and you'll find, you know, every seat taken by an obese Pakistani, you know, who's there to take Instagram photos. I'm sorry to be not politically correct, Michael, I you care about that. But I want to find a place in the world that does not have this and it's getting very hard and I keep asking people where can I find, where can I find. I know two places but this was before roughly the pandemic. I can tell you if you want about this. Of course I want, please give us the goo. Well, before the pandemic, I went to Bali. Actually, I think I got an early version of Wuhan because basically all the Westerners on Bali got some kind of cold, you know, and it was quite bad.

I suspected that this was some Wuhan thing. It would be an interesting study. Covid? You're such a hipster, you've got Covid-15? Yeah, I mean, who knows what it was, but I never got Covid, you know, I never got it, even though I've been going into crowded places since May 2020. Yeah, I tried to get it too, I couldn't get it. Yeah, so maybe we are immune, you know, the Mossad gave us a vaccine already, but... Well, I know I am! Can I say something about that? Oh my God, this is a complete sidebar, but it was one of the funniest things I've seen on Twitter. Someone was like that he was talking about RFK, right? He's an RFK fan. And he said, RFK is making the point very fairly that if you look at people in the sixties on the beach or the fifties, there's no fat people, right?

And now everyone's fat. And someone commented that this was a Jewish plot and the only way not to get fat was to eat the kosher food because that's the stuff that doesn't have the stuff that makes you fat in it. And I go to him, I go, you know, eating, keeping kosher to own the Jews is really a new one. And then he goes, I'm going to double down. He goes, Israel forced the vaccine, but it didn't have higher rates of whatever myocarditis. like doesn't this prove that they gave them like salt water and gave everyone else the real vaccine I'm like you got it so he figured it all out oh I see yes well I uh I look forward to rfk I think if uh they can ban atrazine uh glyphosate and I think it's very hopeful uh a part of Trump

administration if one of best things that can happen is if he can come in and yeah I think it's the sda right yeah the the i we all remember maybe i'm showing my age but we were told it was in all the supermarkets that eating uh low-fat food with and high carb is going to keep you skinny and every label said low fat low fat low fat like now this is just regarded as a joke and this wasn't that long ago this was like five minutes ago so the the damage done by this agency and the different food companies are really... People don't need to be sitting on scooters at Walmart if they're eating the typical diet. Do you know what I mean? Yes, yes, yes. No, FDA has long been a scam organizations that gives certain corporations favored status and a tax supplements to protect certain medications

which many of these medications, People don't know that doctors tell me that trials don't work and they get approved anyway. But look, Bali at that time was this amazing youth colony where there were so many model-looking and supermodel-looking girls, and all the men were Handsome Thursday and so on, and nobody seemed to be over the age of 30, and it seemed to be just, I'm not saying all of Bali was like that, but certain parts of it a bit further away from the international airport. They were like that, and that was an amazing feeling and thing to see exception to this international boomer tourist army feel that you get everywhere. That's one place. Another place is Santa Teresa, where in Costa Rica, which is quite hard to get to, it takes hours to, whatever airport you use,

you have to go on these dirt roads, it takes hours. I think the difficulty of getting to some of these places is what helps them be this way, but it too, a similar type of youth colony with very beautiful young people and so on, and it's, again, wonderful to see. But besides these two, I have not heard other examples. I heard that Barcelona was like this very briefly, just as the pandemic ended, but well, I was there and it was like this just as the pandemic ended in 2022 and so forth, but that's quickly dissipated so that this year and last year was not like that anymore. And I would like, this would be the most, maybe important thing for new travelers to know, where to find this. It changes all the time. I've heard Bodrum, Turkey is like this, but again,

I don't know if it really is like this or if it's a normal, fag, disgusting place, you know? No, no, I've been there. So one of the things, Bodrum is, okay, I will, I'm sure it hasn't changed that much since I was there. I was there speaking at Hans-Hermann Hoppe's Property and Freedom Society, whatever it's called, his thing, PFS thing it's called. Before I went to Bodrum, I had not been around a liberal Muslim city, right? Yes. And I had been under the belief that if, like, Sharia comes to town, they're gonna side with them than with the West. And you go there and you're like, it's completely opposite. They are very westernized, young, happy, beautiful people, enjoying life, living life to the fullest, not in this degenerate, like Miami kind of way,

but in like a thriving, happy community. And what was amazing about it, and Bap, I don't know if you're a dog lover like I am, there's all these street dogs, and they're big. They're like the size of like a golden retriever, but they're all moths, you know? And they just sleep right in the middle of the sidewalk. They didn't bother sleeping by the side. They're right in the center. And what's amazing about these dogs, and there's the whole line, let sleeping dogs lie. And Cesar Millan says, if you meet a strange dog, no touch, no talk, no eye contact. I would wake these dogs up, and they would not only wake up, because regular house dogs, you pet them, they look at you, they go back to sleep. They would wake up and they would stand up and greet you. Very, very, very calm.

They're not jumping. You're like perfectly behaved little tour guides. And they're everywhere. It was an amazing time. Beautiful, beautiful town. It's a great place where you can just, all these weird side streets with these little houses and things like that. It's no boomerism at all. Yes, well, I look forward to it then, you know, being from East Cork, I- I mean, one more thing. This one more thing, though? It really shows how evil some of these people like Erdogan are, because Turkey is this amazing culture with this proud history. And I'm sure you know, as I do, many Turkish immigrants who are really kind of, in the same way they're Japanese, they're proud of being Turkish and where they come from. And to see what he's doing, and he's trying to make it into another Iran in many ways,

is very heartbreaking. And they see what's happening to their country and it just, it kills them. And they're right to be upset. Your heart breaks for them. Yes, my book has many fans in Turkey, because some similarities, apparently, I didn't know this, but some similarities with Kemalism. This is the military regime, secular military regime of Turkey, very much opposed by Erdogan. I'm friendly very much to, I've met Turks abroad, the ones you meet abroad are not the ones who I guess are Erdogan's base, they are urbane and smart and personable and so forth. It's like meeting a Persian who left Iran in 79. It's a completely different phenomenon. Yes, I look forward then to seeing a boardroom based on what you say and I don't mind the street dogs

You know, I grew up with street dogs in East Bloc. I used to play with street dogs as a small boy, but I I'm Yes, I'm very interested in for myself and giving advice to others just escaping What's become and they are unfortunately? completely infesting all the major cities of Europe, and the minor ones, the so-called historical towns. And I find very depressing atmosphere. You drive up coast of Portugal and there are these beautiful medieval towns. For example, Obidos. It's very well preserved. It's on the coast, Obidos town on coast of Portugal. it's just like an outdoor museum and it's a depressing spectacle for me to know that this is where colonization of the world was planned, colonization of Africa and the New

World and great adventures set out from this place and now it's these Chinese grandmothers and slovenly fat American tourists take photos and that's all it is now. There are many such places across Europe, I don't see the point of going there. It's almost like a mockery of what these places are. You like the buildings, you can see them in a picture book. But Toledo outside Madrid is like this picture perfect place. There are people on the right wing who like this kind of, oh it's a medieval walkable city, but of course it's just a tourist destination now in Toledo they even have businesses and restaurants that only open on the weekends because it's it's purely a like a theme park destination Dubrovnik in Croatia is is another

but they're all over Europe and I'm afraid Michael that they're trying to turn all the major cities of Europe into this you know that's that's that's very very unfortunate because again part of what i enjoy about travel and it's really useful as i'm sure you agree if you have a native there who can kind of give you some tip is seeing the authenticity and the integrity of you know this city has been like this for a long time we've seen some shit we're still proud of who we are you know and and this isn't for you like i i like i'm a velvet rope person i'm not a democrat lowercase d i don't believe in democracy yes i like it that i have to do some work to find the cool spots. There shouldn't be a welcome mat, or you could welcome some people, but the good

stuff is for us. So if I'm being shown the cool spots, I've earned it. You know what I mean? That had to kind of jump through some hoops, but that makes it that much more special to me and more memorable than like, yeah, I promise you when I go to Paris, I'm going to go to the Louvre, but that's not an accomplishment. And that's not that interesting. It is interesting in a specific way, but not the way I'm talking about. I would recommend you skip the Louvre and you go to other minor museums that are better and unless you have a favorite thing that you'd want to see there, but again, armies, you have to compete with armies and lines and so forth. And this, what I meant to say, Michael, is there is a narrative now among mostly right-wing

but some left-wing dissidents that we want to get away from soulless, neoliberal, hyper-capitalist mega-cities, and we want community, and that means walkable streets and friendly cities without mega-highways running down the middle. Now I agree maybe something like Houston, actually if you don't mind the next segment I want to ask you about American cities, but I've heard that there are places like Houston or famously Los Angeles which seem to not have a center and maybe even by traditional standards wouldn't be called a city. I happen to like Los Angeles, by the way, but more on this in a moment. On the other hand, cities in Europe like Paris or Madrid or Turkey, Istanbul, they have cars but they're also walkable and they're not just theme parks, they need cars because people

live and work there and a city fundamentally is a place where people, you know, they work, they make commerce, they make business and you as a traveler are there to see their way of life and maybe not just to be a tourist. But they're trying now to turn every city into the kind of open-air theme park I mentioned with Dubrovnik and so on. Paris, they've closed down many of the big streets that Napoleon, actually Napoleon planned them, but Napoleon's followers built them. The grand boulevards of Paris are built according to Napoleon's plans and the leftist city councilors shut down half of them to the bike lanes. This makes traffic impossible. It takes 40 minutes to get from one side of Paris to the other,

like in Bangkok, like it's a third world city. And they're trying, however, to push that even more and to turn Paris into this kind of walkable pedestrian area city. And they're trying to push that on every European place, Michael. And it leads, I think, to a kind A soft totalitarianism, lack of freedom, where people are eventually herded like sheep into a dystopia as you find there's a Wellerbeck novel, The Map and the Territory. I think that's the one. I don't think I'm confusing it with another, but he has this dystopian image at the end where France just becomes a playground for Arab and Chinese tourists to enjoy organic food and walkable theme park city streets. But it is the left in Europe that has the same narrative of, we want to get rid of soulless

cities and cars that pollute and we're going to turn you into a theme park, essentially. I hate that. I hate that the world becomes, you know, Budapest of all places is becoming that way too. But I hate this, Michael, that the world becomes a giant open-air theme park, actually nursery home, you know? I think, doesn't it probably start with Corbusier, where he certainly had a big part to play with this, trying to create these like mega blocks and these high rises. You see it in New York City, there's something called Stitown, for those who know, which is on like 1st Avenue around 15th Street. And it's a bunch of these high rise apartment buildings, which have a lot of people in them. And there's like paths in between. And on paper, you would think, okay,

this would be a great place to go and hang out, whatever. And people avoid it like the play, even though the location is perfectly fine, they'd rather go to Alphabet City. So what you're talking about, I think, is this kind of progressive socialist late 1890s, early 1900s vision of cities being factories and people being fluid to move through these arteries, and it does have this laboratory antiseptic sense, and I hate it. And I love the idea of blockability, but not walkability in the sense that you're describing, and there's a big difference. Yeah, so don't you want to live in a fishing village where only cobblestone streets, and they're using some of the language of aesthetic traditionalism actually to push this dystopian theme park idea on people.

But look, I've been keeping you for a while. I'd like to have another segment, perhaps if you, can you come back? I want to ask you about American cities of which I don't know a lot about, but you know them well. Let's do it. I think audience would be very interested. Very good. Well, let's take a quick break. I will have coffee. Is this good? We have coffee break. Absolutely. I'll be here. Yes. Okay. Now I'm scheduling for calls asking the same thing It used to rain and jet to the roof to get high Arc sold, but that I'd always thought was so long ago Very good, I'm here with Michael Mallis, we are back from coffee break We are talking travel and places to live Michael, I have been going on for some time about

let's say, purely tourist destinations where, I would say, commercial tourists go, they become commercialized tourist places, they do not give you a good experience, and it's gotten so bad that I would advise new travelers and people who want adventure, unless you have a particular reason to go to a place having to do with work, or someone you know or something concrete to do that in fact you avoid the main sights of travel because they will give you a completely artificial experience. You will not experience the place, you will experience the tourism travel version of the place. Again, many parts of Europe have have become this, but parts of Asia too, the typical tourist destinations, the old cities

I mean, have become this. I think Bangkok in Thailand, almost no reason to stay in Bangkok beyond a day or two. And so my basic travel advice would be not be afraid to go to a resort World locations, places where perhaps younger people congregate and adventures are possible. I've mentioned two of them, parts of Bali, further away from the airport. I don't even want to say the names on this show because they can be found out, but Santa Teresa and Costa Rica's famous Bodrum, but I'm interested in Africa. I've heard that the coast of Tanzania and Zanzibar have become interesting in this way. They're not always necessarily places you would expect, but they are places where youth perhaps run away from from boomer-dominated economies and boomer-dominated tourist locations.

But yes, Michael, I am interested in going to Africa for this reason to escape an overly antiseptic-controlled world. What do you think about this bad idea? You think I shouldn't do that? I don't think it's a bad idea at all. I think it's a wonderful idea. I think you're going to see a lot of cool wildlife at the very least in places that aren't the typical safari locations. I also think that, I don't know that much about Africa, I mean I know a lot of Africa in terms of zoology and horticulture, I don't know that much about Africa in terms of culture and whatever. I don't know, I want to see the animals, I want to see, you know, in East Africa you You see, the wildlife is much more varied than in the West. You've got to go to Madagascar. Yes, I want to go to Madagascar.

They dance with corpses in Madagascar. Is that true? Yes, and in fact, they were saying that this is how Wuhan was spreading. Of course, many other diseases spread this way also, but they have strange animistic beliefs that were imported there by the Austronesian who came across the Indian Ocean a thousand or more years ago. It's a very interesting mix of Austronesian and African culture. The only Africans who are in Madagascar were brought here by the Austronesians, by the way. Not nice to say. But I'm interested in such places. And one more thing, a lot of advice given online about travel and where to live as an expatriate is completely stupid and based on ideological reasons or statistics you see on paper.

For example, I see quite a few people being about Uruguay, you should move to Uruguay. Why? Because, well, you might see this if you look more on, let's say, dissident right circles online Michael, but Uruguay, for example, and it looks good on paper if you have such values as you want safety and a relatively clean country. It has apparently mostly European population. It has a solid banking system and so forth. It's a solid country in that way. It's called, however, the Switzerland of South America, there are even Swiss colonies there. Of course, the people don't, they're not pure Swiss anymore, but it's called the Switzerland of South America and yet you live there, you want to put the bullet through your head.

In fact, they have a very high suicide rate because it's a depressing country. I don't know that it has a reason for existing. Good for them that they have some things that run well. But when the founders of Uruguay made that country and it was kind of a breakaway place from Argentina, I'm sure they did well, but maybe they forgot to give the country as a whole a reason to live, and so it's kind of this dreary, depressing, introspective place. I would never live there or tell anyone else to. I drove across it, I know it quite well, but a lot of the advice given online is really stupid like that, or, oh, visit this historical city, visit Toledo or whatever. Can I jump in here? Yes, I'm sorry. Go on.

You're triggering me because there's something I want to jump into what you're saying and agree with what you're saying. I think it's absolutely the case that in many ways we're living in an age of ugliness and much of contemporary times is either glorifying, pretty explicitly, things that are disgusting and ugly or they're ugly in the sense that they're sterile and soulless, which is a different kind of ugliness. It might be like, you know, on paper flawless, but you don't want to look at it, it's just not interesting. There's this idea in, you know, what you would refer to as dissident right circles, that all contemporary art is ugly and disgusting and horrific.

And that might be the case if you go to these contemporary museums, which are funded, I don't even know how, the way they get their money, money but the things they're putting on display are not things that are beautiful not things that are interesting for the most part not things that you would want to spend time contemplating but what I would encourage everyone to do is if you go to any city go to the art galleries and go to the art galleries that are actually selling art and you're not going to see any ugliness at all you're going to see a lot of it's going to be you know some beautiful girl with butterflies behind her it's going to look like tattoos or like a phone skin you know what You know what I mean? But it's not going to be ugly.

So there's a big misconception that contemporary art is repulsive. Go to these galleries and look around. You're not going to buy anything, although sometimes I have bought stuff because it's just absolutely amazing. But you'll see the stuff that they're trying to sell is actually at least attempting to be quite beautiful. Yes, I agree with you. And the dissident right, or in fact conservatives in general, disdain for modern art as such and for the art world is a way for them to self-castrate themselves with this kind of performative nostalgia and I like very much, there are some right wing, I don't know if they want to be called right wing, but there are modern artists who are not posting lesbian and pubic hair or whatever. Fen de Villiers, he's very good futurist sculptor

and there are quite a few others. And I think actually modern art movements in 20th century were spearheaded by men of the right. And what you have now is this Ned Flanders attitude that yes, that basically self castrates the right, makes its cultural potential down to nil, makes it impossible to compete with the left, which has unjustly taken upon itself the image of being edgy and being artsy and so on, when they are nothing of the sort, they're political martinettes and such. But it go also to the travel thing that we're talking about, because you have pile driving, boring people come, not just online, they used to do it in conservative print too. And it's always either, oh, you go to a place like Uruguay because they have good schools

and you can grow carrots, you can homestead in Uruguay or something like this. And of course, it's very bleak and boring, you get there, you don't know what to do. Or it's this, again, performative nostalgia, you can go on the streets of this quaint medieval town. And so when you get there, you go to Coimbra, Portugal, I could keep listing all these quaint European towns, they're spreading across East Europe now too. They're not actually livable, they are pure, what you would call, Instagram destination. So I want to go to Africa. I think it's probably many disgusting things, you know, but also I think I've heard there are places with young people from all over the world who seek adventure, and whatever it is, it's a place that's still undecided. Its future is not settled.

I think the only thing that stops great adventures from happening in Africa is France and United States, their power is so great that they've stopped many adventurous men from taking over parts of Africa. But look, forget taking over where this is nice travel talk. Just simply going there, you see, there is much possibility. You are free, you are free from this pervasive cultural boomerism that rules everywhere. The entire world has become boring, Michael, you know? Well, it hasn't it's I think I think this is it's easy to say that but I think the entire world in many ways People, you know HL Menken said the average man does not want to be free. He simply wants to be safe I I strongly feel that even a hundred years ago

You still have to go out of your way to find the cool exciting interesting stuff like now in hindsight We'd know okay. I have a time machine. We're going to the left bank Paris 1920s, right or you know, maybe be Harvard in the 1910s where all this culture was starting and these young men were making a new American elite. We would know where to go. But at the time, it was kind of underground and those in the know knew where to go, but everyone else was oblivious to it. Yes, I suppose. Speaking of which, please, audience, tell me about the United States. I am curious. I have been in exile for the last few years. I have not been there since the last election. I am, I'd like to come back. I hope Trump win and it's safer. You know, I'm paranoid about these things, but you live Austin.

I was there two time. I have, think has very, very good feel. I loved Austin. Can you tell audience more about why you liked Austin? Well, OK, so Austin has a big problem in that there isn't that much to do, right? Like, like it would be if I went to Bodrum or if I went to Tokyo. The thing that Austin has that I don't think any other New York American city has, maybe, you know, New York and L.A. as kind of a relic of what had been before, is there is very much this scene here. the same way New York in the 70s, like we talked about Paris in the 20s, where you have a lot of cross-pollination because what do you have here in Austin? The first Whole Foods was in Austin, right? So you have this whole like white people who are crushing it, health bro kind of space.

You've got the crypto people, you've got the biohackers, you've got the podcasters, and then you've also got Rogan with his comedy club basically set up a homing device for every comedian who's sick of, you can't make jokes about minorities, well, come to Austin because the minorities aren't staged. Wait, who did this? Rogan did this? Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. You go on the mothership and you will have minorities on stage making jokes about minorities and things that are actually funny and offensive to people, which is how comedy should be. So in that sense, as a former New Yorker, one of the worst things about New York, and still this way, was you knew things aren't getting better, right? You knew it's bad, but all the signs

are in the wrong direction, and there's no- it's not like, you know, if you have a marriage, and the spouse cheats, and you see, you know what, they're really making an effort to show me they still love me, and this was a mistake, and they feel bad, you know, as opposed to, I'm sorry, but then things just keep getting worse and worse. It's getting worse and worse in New York, and everyone knows it. There's no arrows. Here, people understand where, consciously, where something exciting is happening. It's a real relief, and people, it's really kind of, I really love how you will say things that I've come to the same conclusion independently. It's very validating. People have this, you see this all the time on Twitter, oh, you just moved to San Francisco of Texas,

And it's like, I have a gun under my bed, right? If you come to my house, I can shoot you, I'll get a reward. I'm not going to, you know what I mean? It's, there's not even a gay neighborhood here. So this idea that we're the San Francisco of Texas may be technically true on paper of Texas, but this is not at all a shithole crime-ridden blue city like LA, Chicago. I'd even imagine the Pacific Northwest. And I'll give you one. And I think the reason is, in part, is Austin is also the state capital, which is very rare where the cultural capital, the state political capital are the same place. So the governor has a lot of sway here. Before I moved here right before, it was like L.A. with these tent cities, tents everywhere, tents everywhere. And they passed a referendum.

And my friend John, who helped me move, he's like, I'm not going to believe they're going to get rid of all these tents because he's from L.A. And I got here and they got rid of all the tents. And I'm like, John's like, do you know where they went? And Vap, do you know where they went? I don't care, because they're not here. Yes. But I am curious, did they build mental asylums for them, or did they ship them across into the interior of Mexico? I think they quite literally, someone told me, they built these public housing far away, and they shipped them there. I'm not kidding. That's my understanding. Who knows if they just threw them in the river or whatever, but they're not here. Yes. I would trade them. I would put them in Guadalajara.

I would put them in some place, which apparently is supposed to be a nice part of Mexico, I don't know. But I am surprised, yes, that they managed to get rid of tent cities. I remember Alex Jones complaining about the tent cities in Austin. All gone. Yes. You said some bad thing about Los Angeles, but there are people who live in California who say despite what people say, it's not as bad as they claim. I tend to believe them because people are always online, post about Paris being this way, and it's actually mostly still a pleasant city. And I like Los Angeles, you say you don't. I find Los Angeles has- I didn't say that. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Whoa, whoa, let me be clear. I specifically said New York, nothing's getting better.

I was just in LA, I was surprised how much I liked it. The difference is LA is very big and spread out, so I can believe that certain pockets are screwed and certain pockets are improving. The issue I would have with LA and California in general is Newsom and the California government is basically the guinea pigs for the worst lefty policies for the rest of America. So in that case, I think things are gonna get much, much worse. But in terms of LA itself, and I noticed my friend was like, if you have anything in the car, you oughta put it in the trunk. But I did not feel unsafe there like I did in New York. Yes, well Steve Saylor lives in Los Angeles. He has long complained about it, but he doesn't leave.

And I think I understand why, because no matter how bad it gets, to me, the feel of the land, call me a hippie, the vibrations of land is extremely important for your experience of a place. And for example, I think Croatia, although stunningly beautiful land in a photograph, and again picture-perfect medieval towns, I think has an evil, heavy, menacing feel. I would not live there or even stay very long. I think also Northeast United States does not have a great feel. But Los Angeles has an immediately pleasant feel. It's so interesting you say that because I, and I think most people, maybe it's an American thing, feel LA is very sinister. Yes. Well, I like Mulholland Drive. Yeah, Mulholland Drive shows that darkness, but also is a good feel, I think, you know?

Yeah, it's both, but I mean, I think there's very much this idea that something's going on underneath, that it's not, there's a decay and a depravity underneath the facade. And I think that's pretty understood about LA. Yes. Well, I don't know. I vampire, so I like this Sunset Boulevard, Billy Wilder feel. I've enjoyed it. But you had some bad thing to say about Miami. Why? You said it's degenerate or something like that. Yeah, I feel like it's the fun parts are a little artificial in a kind of corporate. I don't want to, corporate's not the right word. I can, it seems very forced, the fun, in this kind of mindless way. There's the art district, but it's pretty small. I don't think that, I enjoyed my time in Miami. I've been there several times. My family lives there.

They moved there from Brooklyn. So I'm not at all saying, you know, it's a lost cause. There's a lot of positive things to say about it. But if I was encouraging people to travel to a city in America to spend a week, I don't know that Miami would be atop my list. Has Elon moved to Austin or Miami? Which one is? Austin. He's here. Okay, so Elon moved to Austin. I know other tech people moved to Austin, but also many, especially during the pandemic year and such, many big names moved to Miami. Has that changed the culture of the place? I was only there once 10 years ago, very brief. brief, has it changed Miami? Yes, it has, but the thing is Miami is very like LA, pretty spread out in many ways, but it doesn't have, like because LA is spread out, but you have different neighborhoods

in LA, and each has a thing that's happening. I don't feel Miami has that in the same sense, that yeah, there are different neighborhoods, but they don't have their own like character specificity like Los Angeles does and the amount of places I can recommend people go to in Miami is quite limited. You're going to get the idea really quick whereas I feel like there are many Cubans or Los Angeles yeah many Cubans in Miami or you would be able to have more of an opportunity of I could spend three weeks here and still see other stuff you know what I mean? I want to go to Miami have a cuban arranged orgies with cubans well go for it you could do that in cuba yeah i don't know where cuba is is difficult to it's difficult to enter but uh of what other part of united

states would uh i mean you've talked about new york and but what about washington dc or what What about Pacific Northwest that you've just mentioned? I know people talk, they some dream about moving to that area, although Portland has become, you know, what do you think this? Yeah, I was just having this conversation with people recently, because I was planning my trips for next year. And the consensus was Seattle is bad and Portland's much worse. I think that the amount of cities that you could really have a go and just have like nine days and just really have the time of your life in the United States is quite limited.

And I also have to say it's unspeakable, you know, what they've done to Toronto, because Toronto I used to love, and then the last time I went there, it really kind of was downgraded several notches. What about Roanoke, Virginia? I drove through there once and I saw wiggers in like with these long pants in the city center. That's the word with a w, okay? They're wiggers and they were with these kind of drooping pants and but the city center looked like a typical mall area the the way Dallas city center look Dallas Dallas is underrated I was surprised how much I enjoyed Dallas there's a lot to do it's vibrant I really did enjoy it in fact if I had to tell people I've been to Dallas Houston in San Antonio in Austin now I think that's the big ones yes and if I said to someone okay you

have a week to kind of go with your boys and have a lot of fun I would save the It would be the easiest to have stuff to do during the day and have stuff to do at night. But to do what, if I may ask? Like daytime, you do cultural stuff. Let's walk around this neighborhood, t-shirts, have a cool sandwich at a restaurant, talk to people at night, bars, clubs, events that are going on. That kind of 24-hour city, I feel Dallas is by far the strongest. I don't know. I mean, I don't know the history of the place. I assume it's just is admiring JFK assassination site. There's a lot there. It's big. You know, I'll tell you I'll tell you my Dallas story just to give you. This is will be allegorical for the city as a whole. And bear with me. We're going to get really artistically nerdy here.

My favorite fish is something called a walking back fish, and they're very difficult to keep in captivity. And I knew that the Dallas Aquarium had one. So we went to Dallas for my birthday two years ago. Go to the Dallas aquarium, I'm thinking to myself, don't tell me where it is, I'm gonna find it. And I have a big marine zoology background. So I'm showing my friends all the fish, doing my autistic info dumping. I looked everywhere, no walking batfish. I was gonna ask one of them, but you know the people who work at these places, I might as well be talking to the wall. So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna Google it. Do you know what it was? There are two aquariums in Dallas, and it was the other aquarium that had the walking batfish.

We went to that one, it was an amazing, I got to film them, I got to see them, it was very exciting. But point being, if you have a city that can support two aquariums, this is indicative of something that's culturally thriving. Yes, I've seen fish inside fish tank aquarium control the mind of the guard. Of course, the guard was a Samoan, so there might be some Lovecraft type, you know, but... I've seen the fish and completely hypnotized the Samoan security guard at the aquarium. But you know, the city is like what you're mentioning. I don't know Dallas. I was there a brief once, and it seemed to me to lack a city center. Houston is another typical so-called Los Angeles-style American non-city, excuse me, to attack, but it seemed not to have any center whatsoever.

And then, of course, it's on the Gulf of Mexico, and that whole area of the United States, now of course there was a hurricane that people thought would be bad. I don't know West Coast Florida, and I don't know, I was in New Orleans once, but I assume that that whole Gulf Coast smells like a swamp, and then the United States has imported tropical population since its founding, not just the ones, but also from Cambodia and Vietnam and such. And so the whole place is, to me, reeks of a swamp that was built around. And I don't understand, am I wrong about this, the mixture of smells, the native smell of the swamp, and then, you know, the curries, the people who smell like curry who were imported there. I'm gonna say specifically about Houston Houston just felt very

Corporate like a lot of tall buildings. Yes, and it really is like why would anyone live here? Kind of San Antonio's even worse in that regard other than the river walks is nothing to see but Houston It was just like okay this this place kind of sucks In the sense that didn't really have its own character If I did not find like what you're describing, I think you're gonna find much more in New York I did not get that sense in Houston at all. Yes Well, it's just the whole image of the swamp climate aspect plus various tropical pastiche populations and no set city center. I didn't see that though in Houston, but the thing is, like you're saying, Houston's like LA, so those pockets are not going to be integrated. Yes.

I am very interested in the climate of the Pacific Northwest, but I think you're right what you say about Portland and Seattle. I knew a man in Portland. He was mentally ill. He was an ex-hippie who had turned far right, and he used to go and scream. They have nights where bikers go naked and so on. It's not sexy or anything. It's disgusting. But he used to sit on street corners and scream and film himself screaming. He was doing an activism. but this is the kind of insane place I think I associate with Portland. I don't know. You say Austin's good. I assume it is. You say Miami is. If I had to leave the United States in a city, I think the only real cities perhaps are New York and Chicago. Am I wrong? I don't know. Well, Austin is a city. I don't understand. It's not a city in certain

It doesn't have like this kind of 24-hour. It's smaller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't have this 24-hour or something's happening situation It's not obvious where to go what to do. So it's not a state of the same within New York and Chicago as cities Yeah, I think you probably are I'm racking my breath. You also need a car I mean, look, I I like being able to carry taxi and having a car But I don't think there are other walkable cities really in the United States. Am I wrong? There's New York, there's Chicago. What else is there? There are parts of Boston, which is not nice, but I don't know. Parts of the DC closed on weekends, but it's otherwise walkable. I spent time in Milwaukee and I had a great time over the summer, which was pretty walkable.

Surprisingly walkable. I have not been, I mean, we're not even talking about like places like Detroit. Nashville is another one where people seem to really enjoy and I don't know if it's walkable or not. I was only there for a couple of days. When I'm blanking, obviously Phoenix is not particularly walkable. Vegas, I mean, that's a whole other fucking situation, obviously. San Fran is walkable, but, you know, my God, it's a nightmare. So, yeah, I think New York and Chicago might be the only ones. Forgetting my standard of whether you need a car or not, besides Austin, which, okay, you said Dallas, which destinations would you recommend to people, And what would you say against my objections that the United States is just far too controlled, you know, if she tried to outrun the police?

Excuse me? I have your answer. I have your answer. This is the hidden secret that people don't know, and people are going to roll their eyes, but I promise you'll have a good time. You go with a couple of friends and go to Philly. Yes. Philly is not boomer town. It's not corporate. It's not Disneyfied. There's a lot there, very walkable. People talk about crime. I didn't feel unsafe in the slightest. Stuff to do in the day, stuff to do at night. I really think it's the by far most underrated city in America. Yes, I almost got arrested in Philadelphia once because I was stalking this girl. She had no right to not answer me and I was outside her window. And then they had Moroccan restaurant Marrakesh, which a full course meal, they do not stop bringing you foods.

And I ended up doing the Roman thing where they made me puke inside this restaurant. But look, the United States, what would you say against my objection that America is far too controlled? For example, if you try to run from police or to outrun them in a car or something, they bring helicopter on you. It's extremely strong there. In France, you can go head-to-head with the police, you can fight them. I get the sense in the United States that I'm constantly being watched, I cannot escape, and it's a heavy feeling. That's why I and other expats have left America for some time now. What you have to say about this objection, and that I want to go to Kenya, to Nairobi, I want to stalk the back streets of Nairobi at night, outside the law.

Well, I am a good law-abiding anarchist, but your point is valid. It's like I was saying to you before how New York, America used to be a place where people get lost or vanish, like in the 70s. definitely not that way at all. And you do, I totally hear what you're saying about that sense of being watched and like what's going on here and being controlled. I, surprisingly, and I would love to hear if I'm wrong from your perspective, I didn't get that sense at all in Tokyo. I felt very much like, even though I'm obviously standing out because it's so homogenous, I felt like you could vanish in Tokyo and really have that same semblance of freedom that maybe America, maybe mythologizing, had back in the day. Do you disagree?

No, I agree. Even though actually there are so many police stations around in Tokyo and the local cop has a mandate to maintain order, they will just beat you up if you cause trouble. But right, they wouldn't, you know, they have to find you, of course. But yes, I do get the sense in Tokyo that there's a sense of freedom this what I seek in travel but I think important to emphasize that when you are not in your own country this sense much easier to achieve because you are seen kind of outside the system in in in Japan you're outside the culture not so much outside the law but you're outside the the expectations and I would encourage this also as a reason for travel for this experience when you are a harmless parasite in a foreign

country and you're left alone and you're not considered part of it there's a there is a freedom in that that you can't find it in your own country you know and also people I think Americans are a little naive about the power of the American passport because that really is big dick energy even if they're oblivious to it. It's really unfortunate because Americans are going to get away with a lot that they shouldn't be able to in other countries. Yes, I think you're right. I don't get off on abusing other peoples or not respecting their culture or things like this but you're just not treated well in general and this goes for any country. They don't treat their own citizens well but they do treat foreign residents much better than their own citizens.

I think this is a reality across the world. Doug Casey talked about this. A foreign resident is a welcome guest. He's probably bringing money, they assume, even if you don't have, and they just treat you well. So this is his advice, to have citizenship in one country, to live in another one and to keep your money in a third one. You know, typical paranoid libertarian freedom maximizer. But that aside, simply the act of travel, Michael, and I know I've been keeping you for a while, we go soon. But yes, I've been trying, now that you talk to me about America and what it's like there, I do want to come back especially to see the beautiful nature and America's extreme impressive nature. I want to see that,

but I am afraid of the cities. I'm afraid of this sense of pervasive control I feel there, and I guess that's what we've been talking about also a lot on this episode. I want to escape this wherever I go, and yet it's spreading. Wherever I go, I find, I don't want to use stupid word Panopticon, but it's this kind of taming, the taming boredom, the boring taming of man everywhere. Bap, I mean, like we were saying earlier, look what's happening in England. Panopticon is even a mild word for what they're happening over there. Yes, the cameras and the control over speech and such, this is what you mean. Yes. Yes, I've heard England is the worst. I would not dare, by the way, to even try to enter England. I have friends who recently did, who also had media profile

and they were fine. Maybe they relaxed a little bit, but a year or two ago they were stopping people at border, not quite arresting them, but they can hold you for six hours. Yes, England is very bad, but where to go, Michael, to find this kind of freedom that a Vietnamese general will put you in a jail cell, six foot by eight foot, because you have banged his daughter and they say that you are therefore diagnosed with mental schizophrenia and you or to be held into this state mental asylum. And I'm not saying this happened to me, but this kind of adventure, where to find, this what I seek. Well, there's only one place, and it's the best, freest place in the world, and that of course is Israel. Yes.

Well, I was sitting outside Gaza in a hotel just about two weeks ago, and I was masturbating, to bring about a confrontation, a kind of Armageddon. But look, now this gets into very esoteric matters of Walter Reich and using orgone sexual powers to affect world events, which I do plan to do for this upcoming election. But Michael, I've been holding you for a while. I'm sorry to ramble now. I just, I feel hemmed in. I feel a gun to my head, and I must escape somewhere like Congo, Kinshasa. Can we do next show when you come at the Kinshasa Hilton? I don't know if they have, but I want to stay in Kinshasa Hilton. I will serve you bushmeat. Africa is not on my shortlist, but if you are planning some American cities or some other places,

is let me know, because I have traveled a lot this past year. I'm going to be traveling a lot in the future. I really, really enjoy it. And like you said earlier, if you have someone who's a good travel buddy, it makes even a bad experience a fun story. Yes, I want to start the hotel in Batang Agubon. We can talk this next time, Michael. But yes, Michael, look, I'm sorry. I kept you long. Now I am badgering you. I much appreciate you coming on Caribbean Rhythm, and let's talk again soon what you say. We meet again in Tokyo. We go Yasukuni Shrine again. What do you say? You know what we say in Mossad, next year in Jerusalem. Yes. Please give my regards to the Talmudic network, and yes, I do have that package for you to pick up in Istanbul.

ready so at any time next week is good Michael very good and and before you head to the States let me know I'll give Zag a call and I'll make sure you don't have any troubles at the border yes please allow me safe entry I am planning massive orgies in in Miami to celebrate Trump inauguration 2025 very good Michael thank you so much for coming and we talk soon very good until next time Para bien, para bien, que tu madre de cardaróm Estoy a tu espera, quiero que creces ponto Paquita, gracias, gracias tu crava es mi Paquita, fidelio, evolvas ponto Paquita, gracias, gracias tu crava es mi Paquita, fidelio, que volvas, obdum Esto herrito por la flecha, de tobe leza y di simulo Venas en la mijo razón, esta com tobe la paquita Paquita, nacias, nacias do crava es mi

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