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Incel

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Really, the effrontery of the female, the effrontery of the roasty, and yes, there are roasties before their time. Do you know what roasty means? Yes, the roast beef as an image of the overused, cabbage-like vagina, but even before the Christmas cake, right? And the Christmas cake refer, you don't use the Christmas cake after the 25th of December, right? That means you follow the Leonardo DiCaprio rule. He never date women over age of 25. I remember on some forums, these lousy bastard mamzers in the comments were going, Oh Leonardo DiCaprio has a feline, cat-like and feminine beauty, he's not really attractive as a man. And this is what he's, if you can believe to them, a man has to have a more foggy, bearded and hoary brutish aspect.

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And then they try to denigrate the panther-like beauty of sensitive young men like this, who are the top. They are the godlike avatars of nature's drive to perfection. And don't ever listen to the faggot propaganda about the ancient Greeks supposedly considering the younger partner in the pederastic affairs, which, by the way, they were carried out in aristocratic circles. between like a 24-year-old and an 18-year-old. It was not like an old, true, and diddling an eight-year-old boy, okay, as you may have heard. And the younger lover was, as the Kamil Paglia say, literally placed on a pedestal in statues and worshiped because it was the younger lover who was dominant. And I'm sorry if this tangent too gay a flavor for you, but the point is the most serious connoisseurs

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of male beauty who are the ancient Greeks absolutely placed the feline and youthful sensitive man as the apex of all existence, closest to the gods, the image of the gods on earth, whereas our ginocratic and thoroughly old-thru and Byzantine-like bearded faggot society wants to demean them and to pretend instead that the stubble, you know the kind, the bearded stubble, the fat, smelly, religious Pater Familias. The father in dirty robes, raking of piss, dirty black robes, which is the rule in all these post-classical societies, right? Whether you look at Byzantium or at the Jews or at the Muslims, it's all the Ned Flanders senescent faggot societies. And that was what ruled the earth somewhat with, well, in Europe you had the warrior class that tried to break free of that and then

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eventually did, I mean until the rebirth of spirit and energy in the Italian Renaissance when the older images could return and the effrontery, the effrontery of the roasty and the premature oven-baked Christmas prime rib roast beef cunts, these girls in the world now not just in America but increasingly much West Europe and even as this disease of effrontery I tell you spreading in Asia and South America, but their aggression against these youths of vitality something I will never forgive and I invoke Lord Hitler I call on your hottie in serene spirit to strike down in might with your holy vajra bolts The decrepit powers of the senile gyno gerontocracy and to free the spirit of use and future from these bonds now recently this man's

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Timothée Chalamet, the actor, he goes on some award show and he says that he wants greatness and he wants to be one of the greats and therefore to leave behind the presumably lesser things he's done so far and I tell you that he betrays himself. And I rely on Lord Mika for this insight, he had a tweet about this, but it's correct because this actor Chalamet, who I like, I've liked his Dune movies and I haven't seen the new one, but I liked even that movie, Call Me By Your Name, which it's too homo movie. But on the other, the worst part about that movie is the ridiculous speech that his father, I don't know who plays his father in that. Was it Robin Williams? It's somebody like that. It's not Robin Williams. It's exactly someone just like that, though. This unctuous

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gives him his supposed father in the movie lecturing him on how he should understand and remember his affair, which I found the extreme importune, intrusion of an old fag into the romance of youth. Well that being said, I mean to tell you I like this actor, I think Chalamet is charming, had good roles, but what's best about him is already the work he's done. And what he will do in the future, even if it's good, it will probably fall short But precisely because the spiritual and manly powers of the aged are as such less than that of youth and less valuable. And it is the depiction of the purity and idealism of youth that Chalamet was especially good. I don't, you know, I don't know that he will turn good as he gets older. The guy from Star Trek, what's his name, Wil Wheaton?

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Yeah, he should have been raped by Doug or something at one point, you know the way that he turned. Anyway, this need that Chalamet has to grovel before the false tablets of values of the old truths of our time that are running this open-air public bathroom nursing home society, it demeans him. I think he should have the confidence to speak proudly for what he's done as superior by its very nature because it depicts purity of youth. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, ladies and gentlemen. This is Tuesday, the 30th of 2025 between Christmas and New Year's. Probably this show will be uploaded on the last day of the year, the 31st. And this is Caribbean rhythms episode 204 on the incel phenomenon, the incel. And the problem you may wonder then if I want to talk

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about the involuntary celibate, the incel problem, you may wonder why begins the episode on such apparently different matters, it's because I think the concept of insuldom is completely misunderstood. When older people hear this, take face value, that means literally involuntary celibate, and maybe a boy who's possessed, a man possessed by rage at that, and who is so unwillingly, right, because it's not only the word, but you have the baggage of the left slander against the right, or large sectors of the right. For quite some time, narrative has been one regarding sexual repression, lack of sexual fulfillment. You know, you don't get no pussy, so that's why you're right wing, you know. You don't need to go back to the so-called

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Frankfurt School, which of course is misunderstood. They would be considered, some of them hard right conservatives today, but some did come up with ideas as authoritarian personality. You don't need to go back to that for a genealogy of what I'm talking now. Regardless of its provenance, this is a fixture of left-wing criticism, especially of many hard right or radical right, fascistic forms or this, that they are basically incel. And even long before this word was used, that was the left's criticism. And not that I want to draw any equivalence to ISIS or Islamic fundamentalism, but the The left sure would, and the left has been trying for at least 20 years to draw equivalence between ISIS and broadly, let's say, right or new right wing things.

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If you watch certain law and order episodes and law and order, this show is basically a party organ of leftist liberal opinion orthodoxy. If you want to watch all the episodes, especially of the SVU, that's the sex victims or sex crimes unit, whatever, it's TV show. See what I mean? And I remember on one such show they had Islamic radical criminal defendant who was exposed as having his motivations in sexual rejection and humiliation. And that's not just about ISIS, that they do that frequently in that and other shows. So it may seem odd to you as in why would then certain people on the right gladly embrace this label when it's almost PR, right? It's a PR consultant designed almost to discredit

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the right. And I think that's a valid objection still. By the way, that's valid. That uncritical or clownish, let's say doing a minstrel show on TV, embrace of this brand for oneself. If it's not informed by the way that it actually was used, let's say from 2014 to 2020 and It's true meaning, the meaning of the concept. It's not aware of that and it's not able to accurately transmit the content of that, which I'll try to do for you by the end of this episode. But then just embracing the word as is, they label it, plays into the hands of the left when it's done clumsily and when it's done as a way to push buttons. In other words, yes, they will be very glad to promote and platform you because essentially

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You're acting in real life willingly the part of the patsy bad guy pathetic cretin from Law and Order, that type of villain, and other left-wing propaganda stretching actually back to well before the 1990s, by the way. So I want to explain on the first part of this episode, at least a little bit about history of this term, where it's from, what means, how it was understood by smartest exemplars, the incel thing, who really created this, this way of thinking. These men are mostly now in their early to mid 20s and I'll say this, I hope I'm not being indiscreet. I met this year quite a number of frogs. I meet actually for quite some years but this year especially quite many and I'm seeing something new I think.

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At least three of them have been guys who are fit, they're good looking, they have objective metrics that exceed those of other men overall, including men their age, in height if you go for that, or physique or such, or everything, face structure, and they're not poor, they are very educated, their intelligence is well above average, and maybe you'll say that's the problem, that they are too smart. But in their social skills, they don't seem like especially autistic or spur-like or deficient to the point where, let's say, high intelligence alone could explain it. But yes, they're incels or virgins. They confide in me as such. And I never kiss and tell who, I'm very discreet, and so okay, whatever, I've met many people this year, so it's not easy to tell who I mean.

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So I hope, anyway, but I was somewhat taken aback because in many countries I visit lately or staying late, it's customary to lose your virginity at like 13 or 14. And obviously there's something very wrong, modern, American, European, some Asian societies. If this is happening large enough scale now, now granted that there's a lot of self-selection, yes, it's men who would meet Bronze Age pervert. It's not general population. But I'll say I did not see this before or certainly in at least men above, let's say 30 will not confide that in me even if it was true. But I haven't really seen that before in young people. And I'll also add that these men, I felt a special kinship to them. They are truly sensitive young men.

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I've tried to ask them on this matter to understand where they come from. When we first came online and I tell you these matters of the relations between the sexes, it's always been central to understanding the current state of things and current stream of opinion. If you don't focus on the source of current stream of opinion in the sexual problem, you are lost. If you think it's about ethnicity or nationhood or the Jews or neoliberalism or religion or strictly political matters in the everyday sense. I'm not saying these aren't worthy subjects to talk about, but I'd say by far more central, for better or worse, to the current changing things, by far more central has been the woman and the sex problem. And I say for better or worse because I've always felt that a man primarily motivated

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by that is not maybe a reliable ally because he might betray you first chance, you know, when a girl throws eyes at him or when he gets a girlfriend. And I'll say without any shame, I've lost at least two good friends to the woman thing. I mean it in the sense of, you know, of course I have very good friends who are married now and they have families and there's no problem with that, there are some men who survived that very well. I mean, there's always, they always have some problem, they will complain to me in private even about that. But in terms of, you know, I remember a friend, I'll give you an example, I had high school, he was unusual, nerdoid type friend, very creative, smart, very funny, did pranks with me, and then he got quite a pretty girlfriend in college,

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considerably what normal fags would say out of his league. And basically, that combined with, yes, psychedelics, which she also got him, but he's just gone, okay? I mean, he's complete normal slave, You know, he has a normal slave job or whatever. He's functional, but she really Capon eyes this mind, you know, he was he was an unusual individual and he became Factory created thing like I saw it happen real time, but he's completely been wiped out turned into a total dullard so I'm sensitive right to where he was a He very easily could be in cell could have been in cell. He was kind of nerdy the unusual socially guy on some level, but then this girl, she became the world to him. So this has always been my worry about this angle, although, you know, worry or not you

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have to take what is given to you, what you have. I think without this angle of the woman problem, there wouldn't be the disturbances of our time at all. Or rather you might have working class discontent somewhat or even agitation somewhat over immigration, it wouldn't all take this extremely charged character that comes from, I'm telling you the central question of our time in Asia and Europe, South America, America is not by my choice. It's this matter of sexual relations, conditions between the sexes. There's something deeply off and I'll be right back to talk more. Please enjoy this Musics Japan. It's the earthquake catastrophe of a breakdown relations between sexes as bad as in ever in mankind history, maybe. And I could see it.

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I've been far right since forever, though I've tried to hide it and inhabit various forms in normal life. But in terms of seeing ideas congenial to me actually explode, it didn't really get going until I'd say about 2011 and after. It started picking up around then, accelerating around then, I think. And the most vibrant, one of most of all vibrant parts was the blog of Hartiste, Chateau Hartiste or Chateau Roissy and then the associated writers with that on the woman question and so-called game like Rouge and quite a few others broadly classed today under Manosphere or Red Pill or whatever. By the way, I am sometimes called Manosphere writer by people who don't read me and I am certainly not that and I also will write something to disavow any connection to incel thing myself.

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There was a publication, one of these papers of record from France, one of their intellectual magazines on the order of New York review of books or that, that a few months ago dared to claim that my book is somehow incel, friendly to incel philosophy or such and the reason they do that is because Incel is a terrorist list watchword And I certainly don't want to be associated with that and there is nothing of this anyway in my book I think I have to write Yeah, I have to put a written this vowel up It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. But anyway, I talked to you about game now, or whatever you want to call it, because, you know, whatever Hartis did, he did give game advice, advice how to pick up women and such. What, in broken relationships and courtship environment, what means game?

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It's a way to give advice to men who were miseducated by TV especially, and to a lesser extent by liberal parents, although it's principally TV that informed people before the internet age or men who had absent fathers or fathers who were neglectful, who did not teach them what any 70 year old cab driver in a third world country knows about women. So they grew up, listen, if you grew up with the dating dogma and romance ideology and the things said about women on TV and movies, you're just fucked, lost, okay? And let's say in 2009, and actually well before that, games started because engineers, you know, or people like that, good educated American polite men, they noticed that in bars, by the 2000s, they weren't really getting anywhere with women and women were not responding to

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what these men imagined, what they were told would work and then the relationships when they got into one, they got treated like second class citizen. So really, they were steamrolled by these women. So primarily, artiste's most valuable advice actually was about how to behave in the context of a relationship, of a love affair. He was not, you know, he had some about how to pick up girls for sex, but really his insights in so far as advice was concerned was about relationship game. And that's why things like this or rouge were popular, you know, this and anyway, I mean, that's not the most valuable part of artiste, excuse to repeat. It was not the advice. It was his witty, cutting commentary on female nature. That's the most valuable part of that writer's content.

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And he got commentary from his own observations, a very witty language, but also the source was F. Roger Devlin and ultimately Schopenhauer, who is Devlin's source, on which, more in a moment, Schopenhauer is a little bit removed from our time. have to know how to translate his insights into those of our age. F. Roger Devlin, much more concrete, having to do with the legal things and so forth, the female nature of our age. And if you want to help on this matter, you should spread his three or four essays, sexual utopia and so on. I will repost them, you know. But, you know, Schopenhauer was really first evolutionary psychology thinker. I mean, it's all there in essays like On Women, On the Metaphysics of Sexual Love, The Hereditary Nature of the Qualities,

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and some other such which really, you should read his whole book, but these can stand alone. Some of them are chapters from his main work, Volume Two. And these are, by the way, also inspirations for Darwin. It's known he read them quite well before he came up with his own revision of Schopenhauer's vision of nature, that's what led to idea natural selection and so on. Read also on the will in nature for some real crazy. Anyway, that's real vitalism, by the way, not posting about going to the gym or girls, or it's Schopenhauer's idea of the will in nature. But yes, so there was this explosion of this in 2010 or so, a bit before, to is a really huge change what ideas that are perceived as a kind of hard right or non-conservative

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non-religious right wing for the first time came to truly be very powerful among young men especially but not only it's not only it's really an intelligent man who wanted to find the truth it's just that this problem would not as much let's say affect an older married men, which is why conservatives like Charles Murray are completely, you know, older boomer conservatives, completely oblivious to this problem. But you know, it's not an excuse for them. They shouldn't be. I mean, Wellebeck is not oblivious to this. So it's just a lack of intellectual curiosity on their part. But anyway, part of this criticism actually was recognition that religious conservatives, social conservatives, had been very willingly collaborators in this generational obfuscation

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when it came to the nature of women and sexual relations. That's a problem that continues to our day. And these ideas were seen, I think, in large part were far right in a real sense, but I'm saying this had a totally different origin, valence than, say, white nationalism 1.0, or what you might think of as David Duke type things or things of that sort, which include also more elegant types like Jared Taylor, really. When people say that he's, people like that are not completely relevant to what happened after. And that's now making a comeback after we were all banned and suppressed and the animes were suppressed. And many of you dumb mamzers, we may be smart men in other parts of life, but when it comes to this and the online thing and the world of new ideas,

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your dumb mamzers, because you're supporting the return of a type of right wing that's actually retarded, it won't get anywhere, and comes pre-caricature, it is a caricature, but anyway, more on that another time. This explosion in, let's say, formerly suppressed, I'd say to a large extent still suppressed knowledge about women and sex. And I only wish, again, that artiste, maybe he probably doesn't like me now. don't care he was the first one however to promote my account excuse you see how they attack fuck they're doing it to my throat they're fucking my throat but i came online in like uh i mean on twitter i was on forums before then but i came on like mass media twitter in like 2013 or so i had no followers like 50 or whatever that uh you know most they were probably you know the same

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porn bots that you get when you make a new account and he retweeted me a few times though he liked what I said that's really how I first found friends on Twitter through his account but I only wish he had written a book he had the knowledge he has vivid words talent for it he never did that and it's really you know forum posts are not the same you really needed a book Mr. Harti Strossi and now it may be too late I still say wake up take stock of the changes since you were writing and do it, but who knows the guy who ran original artiste Rossi blog is maybe not interested in continuing that anyway I heard he abandoned it. For those of you who are not online I'm sorry to dwell on this it's just you have to understand the importance of that blog

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and associated blogs to this whole universe of new ideas that you are interested in now you know. So this all got inappropriately called pickup artist biome, or whatever, biome is my word, but it's a pickup artist thing. P-U-A, okay, you've heard that word. And it got more and more publicity and spread until, and actually Harti's ideas was the first right wing that I'm aware of who put words, images, ideas into popular culture. Prior to that, decades of the conservative movement could not do that despite their foundations, magazines, and so on. Harti's did that with just when When you use alpha terminology, you say this man is alpha and beta and so on, you got that from artiste. I mean, he got it from evolutionary whatever, but it was spread by him.

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And then the first seasons of this show, Girls, which is a feminist show, but it's completely, it's like a commentary, a negative commentary, a hostile commentary, but nevertheless, a on Harti's blog basically. He was the first one to be able to affect, and by the way, very few after him were able to repeat that. Certainly none of the so-called big accounts now have ever done that or would be able to. They have no ideas with which to do it. But around 2014 to 2015, so this is quite some years after Harti's was writing and after Red Pill and PUA pickup artist and game stuff was already spreading, but around 2014 to 2015 there was an important revision to this, which many people who may know about Hartis don't know about this. It was in part a reaction to it.

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It was from men who noticed that no matter how hard they try these game techniques, like, you know, what is game? It's basically playing hard to get, you know, not only right, but if I had to describe it shortly, you know, it's true. If you don't show interest, girls will love you for it. I mean, the central seduction technique, for example, in Stendhal the Red and the Black is Julien, the main character, learning to suppress his own immense excitement and love and desire for this aristocratic and capricious girl, and to treat her even with cruelty, with indifference, to pretend he doesn't love her, to tease her by feigning an affair with another woman in front of her to make her jealous until she just allows herself

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under this psychological assault allows herself what she actually wants, which is to fall madly in love with him. And he has a PUA, tactic game teacher, and a Russian prince, a seducer who teaches him how to do this, okay, and gives him love letters to copy to this other supposed mistress and so on. This is hardly new knowledge. It's timeless truth. But there started to come an awareness among some males that no matter how hard I try, I'm not getting these girls, or when I do get them, it's not what I thought, and the game relationship advice doesn't work. And I think there are several reasons for why this breakdown took place, concurrently several reasons. First of all, there is an arms race, right? Because very fast females, especially those who were part of the problem, the ones in

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cities, the ones with online awareness, they learned what was going on, you know, game and pickup tactics. As I say, it was incorporated in an enemy broadcast of girls on HBO, this show, right? So that they came then to arm themselves socially and psychologically against it. So to men to which game did not come naturally, who were learning it for the first time, the difficulty level went up several levels very quickly. I remember men mentioning that even Even in Japan, by the mid-2010s, if you went up to a girl to try to pick her up, she would immediately recognize what you were doing. She'd respond, oh, you're doing nanpo. I don't know what the word is, nanpa, I think. Oh, you're doing that thing, nanpa. They knew it. They knew to expect it.

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So it's a general principle also, but why you should never go to big city nightclubs on a weekend to pick up girls. It's not that it's impossible, but it's much harder. very high stress situation because that's what they're expecting and then many, because of that, many go with their friends with no intention to go home with a man even if they like him. Basically, to be seen as being hit upon and then actually they intend to do nothing. Whereas the best thing in New York, for example, is if you know which bars to go on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Weekends are for amateur hour only is not good unless you go to private party I guess. You know, many girls have these rules. This has always been the case though.

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I don't sleep on the first date. I now have this friend who's a girl who's a slut who left her husband for her personal trainer. It's a very cliched story. Of course, a personal trainer, that relationship broke down too. But in the context of telling me about her affair, because she knows I do not judge, but she felt the need to add that, oh, she did fuck her personal trainer on their first date outside the gym, but oh, I usually have a rule that I don't do that. She told me that. Anyway, I meandered. Another problem happened in early to mid-2010s, which is the dating apps. Obviously this makes game partly obsolete because to the extent you still have game, it becomes text game, you know, and that also isn't so important because looks, your photographs end up being much more important.

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I have a friend who is, he's genuine, you know, alpha handsome Thursday Zoomer who is is maybe oblivious to the fact that other men cannot get dates like he does on Tinder. He can get a girl every day. And then of course, the complaint is that this makes it so easy for women that they become like stereotypical gay men who can use this app to hook up instead of masturbating and so on. I think another creeping factor is confluence of these two bad things that came to a head later during the pandemic. but they were happening earlier, too. There was maybe generational change that may have happened anyway as a sociological cycle, which I have yet to explore in detail, so I can't give you the reasons for what I'm about to say, really, but I saw it said, even in early 2010s, and like 2009, 2008,

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that the current generations were not going out as much, that the vibe so-called, the ethos of the age, let's say post 2005, 2006, whatever, had changed. Whereas the 1980s were a great type of going out time, an extroverted, outward-looking, exciting time. You know the song Stepping Out and such. But the current generations were turning to cocooning. They wanted to stay in. And people talk now about ordering Uber Eats or whatever it's called, DoorDash and Netflix, which I say this may have happened anyway, but was greatly facilitated again by the growth of the internet and home entertainment, which governments should really counteract that somehow. France, last I knew, highly subsidizes cinema tickets and many other such public things for young people especially,

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and they put a tax on video because they want people to have these art experiences in common. I think this is great type of government interventionist policy. but the opposite was happening everywhere for, I think again, rather unexplored reasons overall. And this was made much worse by crime or the perception of rising crime. And I think this is a pussy reason in reality, okay? In other words, there is young enterprising people have always gentrified very dangerous neighborhoods. Just please take the risk, okay, if that's your concern. I've lived in dangerous Brazil before, But starting in mid-2010s, to take that as the most severe case, leading up to Bolsonaro, who was seen as a complete lunatic in Brazil before his win.

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It wasn't like a case of Trump, who was beloved by America as a popular, funny celebrity. Bolsonaro was just seen as a lunatic. No one thought he could win. I'm proud of being one of the few to predict his win at least a year before that election. And the reason I could was because it got so bad in Brazil. I mean, I didn't mind it, okay, slit my neck on the street. But it was so bad that they had effectively a lockdown before the pandemic, a crime lockdown. Things, you know, businesses closing, people afraid to go out at night. And now in America and Europe, okay, it was never so bad, not nearly so bad, but it was trending in that way. And for these things, trends matter more than perceptions. You know, I remember being in Buenos Aires in 2008,

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maybe or around then. And I would find restaurants in nice neighborhoods who did not let you in if you did not ring doorbell. I was astounded to learn that it's because they were afraid of crime. Although I walked long distances at night in that city, the way I wouldn't in, you know, you can't do this in Africa or certain parts, even of Russia or such, but then, you know, even in the supposedly bad neighborhoods in Buenos Aires, I would and nothing ever happened to me or to anyone I knew. But a few publicized cases and those, you know, Italian, Argentine emotional complainers, they just, they had the impression of a terrible crime wave when there wasn't, so they locked down somewhat. But quite aside from the crime problem, there's just, I think much worse is the unpleasantness,

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what I described as the airport terminal effect, okay? It's not fun to have to go out in highly diverse modern city because the modern type of diversity is generally low human quality. That's what the era of mass migration is, the problem. It come to a head during this time we're talking about and it just brought unpleasantness, even just lameness, quite aside from the crime problem. You have to go out and, you know, ugly, unkempt people that you have to share public spaces with. A girl would have to go to a bar and, you know, turn down mystery meat, which is maybe good. I mean to say, you know, they're anti-racist, right? These girls are taught to be anti-racist, so they didn't feel, let's say, that they were being good girls by doing that.

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So then the response was just to go out less, so they didn't have to go through turning down. And then a host of other social unpleasantness that's unrelated to even what I'm telling you, just people becoming nastier, more withdrawn, even native peoples, everywhere becoming nastier. That proliferated during this time and the reasons for this, I think, mostly unexplored. And then the pandemic came, of course, it destroyed social life. destroyed going out, and businesses and nightlife. And when I say nightlife in some cases like Tokyo and Buenos Aires, that was literally a parallel life of the city. It wasn't like one or two establishments that also opened at night. It was a part of the city that only took place at night, an entire separate existence. Now it's obliterated.

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In some cases like Tokyo, these things had developed over centuries, a century of pleasure nightlife, not a century, centuries. It's one of the greatest cultural crimes, I think, and things have not recovered yet. But that just made online life the only life, right? And I don't think, yeah, I don't think anywhere is recovered. Look, this is depressing. We need music, so I'll be right back. Mr. Podesta, put on the happy music. Anyway, yes, I'm back And these changes I'm talking about, the social, technological changes that did away with game and maybe did away with much of normal social life. And it got much worse during the 2020 pandemic that accelerated it, but I'm telling you it happened even before. And around 2014 or 2015 or so, these PUA hate, pickup artist hate forums,

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that took off and they point out They focus on immutability of, let's say, biological advantages some men enjoyed in looks and so on, and the almost, now look, I don't agree with this entirely, but just relaying the history of what incel is. But yes, their claims were that some men are doomed to involuntary celibacy, principally on account of their biological ugliness or such. I mean, it's just like that. And I think Hardis knew of the partial truth of this, not this, but an inverse of it, by the way, for the sake of, you know, encouraging his readers, he did not emphasize it. I had friends who were 20 or 21, and they were very handsome, not just like a movie, whatever, look good in a photo, like Ben Affleck maybe looks good in a photo, but if you see him, I've never seen him in person,

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but even on video, lacks any sex appeal. But these men were the types of looks and manner that women found very sexy, and they could just go up to a girl and basically say, let's fuck, and it worked. Or start kissing her, even, and it worked. And to someone who may have put hours reading game theory and working on themselves and such, and not having anywhere near that success, merely knowing about that example can be quite demoralizing, you know. And they don't have in front of their eyes the many counterexamples that also exist that rather ugly or maybe not especially handsome or very often quite short men I've known have had enormous success with women. And I've seen it myself, they're not making it up. So it's possible then for Rieder, even of artist to take artist's discretion,

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his silence on these matters, which he was doing for good reason, but to mistakenly believe that Artiste was betraying them by deceiving them, that, oh, he lied to us. You know, this other guy can just snap his finger and get all these hot girls. Here I am slaving away to be a clown and to play their games and I get nothing or I get crumbs, or such thing can be very easy to sink that, you see? And that one aspect I just said of the playing the clown, the jester, right? I remember even Roush long ago complaining about before 2011, but that became a major thing, right? Because the more the pickup artist tactics became public and the game phenomenon intensified and became known, the deeper the lore got, the more convoluted the tactics. The arms race continued with women aware of it.

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It got to the point where you see what I'm saying. It's like in chess, what happened to chess, right? To be a chess player today, this is Bobby Fischer's complaint. Any competitive chess player basically has to memorize a thousand opening lines because the arms raised in these, if your opponent may have an opening you don't know or he may know the opening you're playing better from past games, and then you either fail or you waste more time than you have to figure out from scratch things during the game that he already knows. he has memorized them. So the game becomes a form of memorization of opening lines to where some of the popular opening lines, you can have two masters play Ruy Lopez. This is a classic

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opening. You've probably played this in the past if you've ever played chess. But basically, in some of the Ruy Lopez opening games, the first 30 or 40 moves are scripted, so to speak. that plays that played memorized that memorized games and and this has taken the spontaneity out of chess it's why fisher designed fisher random chess which i like but it eliminates opening lines from chess and makes it you know a pure test of spatial skill but that never took off so anyway so this was the thing where men decided i don't want to have to memorize all these scripted thing. They don't come naturally to me anyway. I'm not comfortable being social maybe anyway. So I'm being turned into a jester for these girls who are ever more demanding.

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On top of all this, you have the concurrent disaster, the obesity disaster. You see, it said some right now, 70% of American women are overweight now with 40% obese or something like that. And the only exception is really New York. But even in New York, I started to see chubby girls frequently in the early 2010s. And I mean, I'm told outside New York, it's just complete disaster. You know, it's the end of the world. But now if you're, if you're in a relatively high socio economic circle in New York, or maybe one or two other metropolitan areas, there are going to be thin white girls. There are no thin black girls anymore, as far as I hear, in the United States, I mean, but they'll be awfully aware of their high value as merely being thin, giving them high value is extreme dysfunction,

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I think. So it jacks up the value of the remaining women as a surprise lesson. And then when you do manage to get girlfriend today, she could very well be an insta-thought. This is an Instagram addicted whore who may well be an influencer on that gutter platform and who has Instagram mediated borderline personality disorder will make your life hell So your relationship with her will be unpleasant either way. So you see the situation for men is getting so bad, you might say it's easier to drop out this than to try. This poster I like very much. I keep mentioning Menaquin on four. Men, if you listen, I hope you don't mind, I bring this up. But he had one especially famous thread on such unrelated matters, where pointing out the deep dissatisfaction

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men felt in sexual and romantic affairs where, first of all, they lied to each other because they are ashamed to admit that they don't get as much sex as they wish or they are not happy in their relationships and even if you're alpha or whatever by conventional metrics and you can rack up a high body count, even then you can be extremely satisfied. You have possibly long dry spells that are outside your control. You have unsatisfying sexual encounters. You have sexual encounters where a woman uses you as performing monkey. Yeah, fuck me harder. Fuck me harder, faggot. Get it, get it, get it. You know, this, this kind of thing where where people imagine that men love to dominate sexually a woman, maybe it is true, but it

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can get old very fast, you become, as I say, perform gorilla, and then in matters of sentiment and romance, there can be enormous dissatisfactions of all kinds, even for sexually very successful men. Zooming behind all this, and I'd like to emphasize, largely determining this situation, is the legal framework since the 1960s and the associated social developments that basically gave women total mastery over America. It was said, I think, by Hartiste or Saylor that today women basically walk around with the privileges of the lower nobility in medieval times Europe. But I think it's much worse, they are absolutely imperious in exercising their power. As I may have said in Argentina, which is the worst place I know for this, you have

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actually out-migration of men since the 2010s because women can ruin your life with mere denunciation, without any evidence, no due process provided. And this was happening to a large extent in America too, not many men emigrating yet. I knew some, by the way, who did leave for Europe in the 2010s, late 2010s, chiefly because of this. But the Me Too movement and then the other, you know, that was not new, okay? There were many Me Too movements stretching back all the way to the early 1990s, at least. When you had date rape crisis hysteria, you can find in Camille Paglia's article collection books like Sex, Art and American Culture or Vamps and Tramps that read as if they could have been written 2012 or 2018 or today, same moral panics.

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And this compounded over time where you had, you know, famous signature, widely publicized cases. The assault on college men, the terrible blood libel story against the University of Virginia frat boys, which was, should be investigated. It was apparently cooked up in the Obama White House, coordinated that with that journalist. It was later shown to be complete fabrication. And lying Ashk journalists like Jeffrey Goldberg never paid a price for promoting that, nor of course the vicious rat woman who wrote it. And then that many other such things, the insane bitch at Columbia, I think, who carried a mattress on which she was supposedly raped, and the entire Maoist American press clapped at her bravery, as if this was not a mentally ill person, on the order of having governors

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kneel in front of the George Floyd holy corpse casket, the passion of George Floyd. But you see, that was done 100 times over for women, you know, ruining utterly the prospects of normal social interactions between men and women. It's still being done completely. It's being done every day. I hear careers of friends I've known, I won't repeat, who destroyed over mere hints, denunciations from women at their jobs, you know. And it's being done, frankly, through the Epstein thing, which is not what people think it is, okay? You have the life of this Prince, is it Prince Philip or Prince Andrew? Prince Andrew, ruined over what? Because he had sex with a 17-year-old girl? That would be considered absolutely insane in any historical society, that a man's life

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is ruined over copulation with a 17-year-old woman. That's not a girl, by the way. And I don't know, to me that's crazy. And this is a prince, right? And you're told the blood drinking demon elite, Alex Jones, told you. And this is that guy. But he's not getting canceled over eating babies. He's getting canceled because he gave a massage or something to a 17-year-old girl, you know, who may well have lied about her age. And that's basically the valence of the Epstein story. It's an extension of the Me Too thing. It's not what people say it is. But on this note, I should tell you something. It's a special tidbit for my listeners. There is a brewing story of sorts that could come out imminently or could come out, but I think it will come out soonish or eventually.

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And I need to preface this. I know that influencers and people online talk a lot of things now. Such and such told me and this thing is going to happen and so on. And I've never done that really without it being true. But my sources for this are as good as can be. And I have to be discreet in what I say. that there is a story that is much worse than what Epstein even pretends to be. It's that type of thing. It's much worse. And I believe it will change the short term politic of America and maybe economic thing also in some very bad ways. Get ready maybe for someone like Candace Owens to become major player because this story checks off all the boxes. I'm not going to say what it is, but think like worse than Epstein on the level of, let's say, Fagan from Oliver Twist type thing.

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But beyond that, I will, okay, I mean, this is, this is quite bad from what I hear. So yeah, it's about the major personage in American society and economy. That's all I'll say. So anyway, we'll see. But yeah, to go back to what we are saying, you know, this is the real triumph of feminism, what happened, all these things with the MeToo and in American society. So you have idiots now talk about, oh, I want white Sharia. You live under female Sharia. I won't forget this story. It's hardly unique. You know, if I took my shirt off once in front of this gym, this is quite a while ago. And this cop came up to me and berated me, you know, that I was supposedly making women with children walking by feel uncomfortable, okay? And this was in front of a university gym, okay?

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And it's like, you live in Saudi Arabia, but for men, you have to put on something because – I'm sure he got no complaints. He was some faggot cop. He was, I could see him circling around somewhere in the distance and, and kind of trying to find fault. Who knows what were his real motivations, but that he could use this as a pretext, right? This was an acceptable pretext to him, right? You know, you looked at overlords in the face and you dare to take off your shirt. You have to put on a burka and, you know, you do live in, in female run Saudi Arabia already. You live under female Sharia. I was with a girl once, told me that she proudly said that she was taking self-defense class and this is another feminist conditioning brainwash course where they learn to kick

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imaginary men in the groin, although in real life, as you know, they get overpowered by a rather weak 15-year-old, and I told her, you're better off having one of those fancy lady guns in your purse like in James Bond. Don't you feel stupid going to a class teaching you to fear men and kick them in the groin? And she said, no, it's great. And I say, well, I says to her, and this is why you're single at your age, and said she got mad at me because she assumed, I suppose she assumed I was her prey at the time. Anyway, you see a lot of young women, this is crucial to understand for everything I'm talking about, they live in utter fear of men today, fear they will be assaulted, maybe even raped, but certainly that they might be assaulted or beaten

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or criticized somehow, fear of disapproval even that they'll be laughed at. This contributes hugely to lack of couple formation. And that's the principle driver of not enough babies being born. Paired up girls who start to have babies usually have enough of them. It's not that couples are only having one, although maybe in some socioeconomic registers they are, but it's more that there's not enough couples formation. And as I said on my orgies episode a few back, anxiety and fear of various kinds of, you know, it rules the minds of young people. And for girls, that includes also fear at sexual disapproval, yes, like, you know, that neurotic about not being good in the sack or their clothes off, they don't, and insecure about that, or they have idealized visions

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of what their relationship or sexual encounters could or should be and don't want to be disappointed by that. So that contributes a lot more to them not being sluts than anything else, by the way. It's not out of feminine virtue, desire to preserve their purity, it's not out of that. I'm trying to explain for you what on one hand led to the rise of the incel idea from these pure hate forums on the side of men, but also to explain at the same time the general degradation relations between the sexes, really what made the entire basis of, Oh, I'll go out to the bar to hit on girls or I'll hit on girls supermarket or the park. It made that impossible or far harder, more problematic than it had been even in 2008.

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So the weight of argument on these forums changed as I tell you toward the criticisms of pickup artistry and then rather defeatist emphasis on inevitably involuntary celibacy for those not biologically gifted enough to supposedly reap the benefits. These disappointments at sexual or romantic life are always made worse by imagining that some men are actually not subject to them, that there are men who are reaping all the benefits and enjoying themselves, and there are of course men who jerk off over that, but it makes it worse, that thought. But I think pretty much everyone is affected by that. And these views about involuntary celibacy as biologically fated, it merged with what you now know as looks maxing, right?

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Because one response to all this is, if looks determine everything, then you change of looks, which went, it went well beyond, oh, you go to the gym and you tan and you do your laundry. That's the old Jersey shoreline. But now into, it went well beyond, you know, mewing, you've heard of that. That's how to get bigger, more powerful manly jaws, maybe you have special chewing gum made of mastic or something, or how otherwise to change your face through plastic surgery and similar techniques like bone modification, or even trauma, you've heard this, even changing your height, changing your dick size, everything's up for grabs. In a Brazilian context, changing your race, becoming white, or I mean Neymar became white famous, he did the Michael Jackson Act, famous Brazilian soccer player.

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I've mentioned on previous episode and maybe I'll have guests on to discuss, I've heard in Brazil the incel thing highly connected to race because especially mixed race people, in Brazil whites are, especially blonde whites, but whites are fetishized and then if you're a white boy you can get girls, supposedly. If you're a black boy you can get girls, supposedly because black culture they grow up in is highly sexualized. And then the people left out are many of the intermediate cases, which I've said before that in some ways the mixes come out good and sometimes no. And so sometimes the intermediate cases, they feel ugly and And so in Brazil, a lot of the incel phenomenon, so called, has become a kind of racial discussion

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in this sense, a kind of identity crisis on the part of certain types of mixed race people. But it's a lot more interesting when it gets into the details, which I don't want to get into right now. It's just a long other discussion. But it should be said that specimens like this clavicular you may have seen on social media or rather what he's become by now, apparently even back then in 2015-16, derided on many of these forums as the types who spent untold amounts on plastic surgery but got very little return for it. This was an object of derision in these communities back then, I don't know. But I mean to say the looks max thing was very much adjacent to the incel commentary. I may write something longer on looks max phenomenon through the ages. It's not, of course, something new.

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I mean, women have always done it, but in many cultures, especially warrior cultures, men have been obsessed about their looks also. But regarding the history of this incel phenomenon, you must understand that if you're only discovering about this now you are very late to it basically by 2021 the people who created actually the language and explored deeply the ideas around it which I'll try to make clear for you in a moment but by 2021 they were not really comfortable themselves with the word incel anymore I'll tell you why I'll tell you what this concept incel actually refers to when I come back for last segment of this episode please you enjoy this music so I'll be right back. As I'm back and the incel phenomenon was developed on some of these POA hate and

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adjacent forums around, let's say 2014 to 2019 by 2021 even, and maybe even by 2019, but certainly by 2021 they said become a Brown phenomenon as happens to much on the internet, the beige, the beige ad of the world discovered the repurposes terms. So now it refers mostly to the resentment and rage that brown men feel when white women don't fuck them or don't desire them back as they were told might happen from a movie or propaganda they saw or pornography. Like if you go to Internet Cafe in Cairo or Lahore in Pakistan, it's all, you know, local youths watching internet porn about white women. And if you're a lone white woman in these places foolish enough to go on vacation there, which I don't recommend. I mean, if you're going to be a sex tourist as a girl

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and you want to experiment, please contact me. I'll give you advice. Which place, please don't jump at my throat, white nationalist, there are like two girls who listen to my show anyway. And any girl who would respond to such an offer of advice is already a psychotic person, basically. And you should actually applaud such exciting pathology if it really existed, it doesn't. The reality of women is much more banal depressing than that kind of thing or female sex tourist. I knew a sexual tourist woman once. She was a friend and she was not old or bad looking in that case, by the way, but I think she was just genuinely mentally ill. But even she would not dream of going to places like steaming rat pile cities like Lahore, Pakistan. So, you know, anyway, I mean, at least go to Chitral

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in Afghanistan, hinterlands. But the consciousness of men in those places, as I say, is if they immigrate or such, and then they find the realities that shut out of sexual opportunities, and they start to call themselves incels, and that's mainly what the word has come to mean. I say to you, even by 2021, not to speak of now. And that's a misdefinition. I'm relying for much information that I tell you now from a special secret article by a secret Lord Gemr poster, if you know who I mean, but I can't say more on this, okay? Elliot Rodger was right. No, look, I joke on that, okay? Anyway, for those of you who are mamzers and have only recently heard the word incel in relation, for example, to the Mexican Oaxacan activist Fuentes, who is a closeted gay man

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promoting traditional Catholicism in the true GOP closet fag tradition, as this is what DC GOP consultants always were. It's what Lindsey Graham is, you know, repressed homos talking about, like, abortion and going to church and this. And that's not an incel, OK? That's another misuse of the word today. Like closeted gay guys don't get to use that word. less than Pakistanis who can't get blonde girls. As my friend says, if you try to pick up Hasid women in New York or wherever, Mennonite women in Paraguay, and you are shut out of that, that doesn't make you an incel. It's a misuse. Speaking of which, before I tell you what this word really means in the form it was thought out. Please see how much it's already been degraded, besides what I've just told you,

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by widespread use, where it means almost nothing now. It's ubiquitous even on TikTok. Words like femcel and other such varieties are ironically used. And incel, the word itself can often be used by a girlfriend against a boyfriend who's fucking her regularly, right? They're in a relationship and she may call him an incel in argument if he says something off. I've seen Also, alpha youths call themselves incels, sometimes as a fashion statement, and sometimes as a not completely cynical brand because in their own understanding, by refusing to orient their lives around women's desires and to play jester dance for them and so on, they want the incel mantle, I guess as an apotropion, a protection against a demon, right? Not just the annoying female opportunities,

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but the entire complex of expectations are our romance, dating, relationships, which is all heavily female-centric and it denies the nobility and validity, sometimes even the existence of manly instincts, whereas I worship manly instincts and I want to encourage their pure expression, so to me this is, I'm describing to you the enemy spiritual complex. But I've seen exceptionally sexually successful men who describe themselves as incels just for this, and I guess when it's not misused by browns or gays or others or misused by girls and their allies as a mere insult with no special content, it does have a real meaning even in its, let's say, false wide use by a man who's not actually involuntary celibate. There is an intimation here that it's a man who says something that doesn't comport,

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it doesn't comport not just with feminism, it doesn't comport with the general collectivist consensus of TV consciousness around dating, relationships, the conventions and expectations of that for the last 20 years or so, you know, which are Reddit champions and so on, so that if you go against that, any of that, you're an incel suddenly, even according to the girl you're currently sexorizing, you know, but basically even by 20, 2021, but by 2019, I'd I'd say there's no one really who genuinely had thought through the word, who believed that it means that you can't get access of any kind to copulation or fucking any woman whatsoever, which, you know, that's just not what the word means, okay, because of course you can always get a prostitute, right, everyone knows that.

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So it's not purely about that. And then if you say, well, it's about inability to get freely given sex from a girl by free choice. ask you, do you understand how much actually is packed into what I just said? Because the reply would be, is it really ever freely given? I'll tell you that very often, yeah, what you would call chads, and there is no such thing in incel ideology as a chad, that is meant as a fiction, okay? It's not meant, the incel line is that the chad is largely a fiction, okay? It's a fantasy. But let's say someone approximating what you imagine is a total stud. Many young girls today fear them as well, as I tell you. This is a phenomenon men have known even before. It's always been somewhat the case. If you were a handsome

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man or were one in your youth, you've probably been in situations where it was easier to get a beautiful girl or even a girl who was a model or something like a model than an uglier one, because the uglier ones especially could be far more insecure and defensively vain and that's their last recourse. It's a kind of sour grapes pretend refusal. So now extend that psychological fact even to non-ugly girls by our time. Many young girls, as I say, live in fear, hatred of men, hatred of men. So if you imagine that fucking a hundred hot guys as some men fantasize for fear that's happening, you're mostly wrong. You can be a Chad, so-called, and they will fear you. So then you have to go, if they fear you, it's not free anymore, you see.

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If they fear you and you have to overcome that, then you have to go through all kinds of self-effacing rituals to make them not fear you. So I ask you, what means freely given, as this is not so free now, is it? There's a cost. There's a big cost. You don't pay money, although you might too, but you have to go through hoops to make them feel safe, which, taken to many absurd but hardly infrequent extremes, can easily become humiliating, right? You have to self-deprecate, you have to allow her to put you down, you have to have a weak and stupid look on your face, maybe you have to have lilting talk like a fag. So you have coming out of this thing, let's say, adjacent to this is called oofy doofy theory. You know, what is oofy doofy theory? You can look this up.

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It's a claim that, I think I mentioned something similar before on this show. You walk through Madrid, for example, and it's almost all nines and tens, the girls, but they have some real slob boyfriends, a lot of them. Not charming slobs, not like Russian gangster, fat, tracksuit, unkempt slob, but very well Well-kempt, but like pudgy, weak-looking, effaced male, such as – heartiest would call them herbs, herbs, you know. Fucking hell, they attack my throat as I'm choking, as I'm telling you this. Like they look completely non-threatening Newton poodles, these men, and they're pulling nines, okay? And the theory goes something like, these guys end up being as successful as alphas, you know. complete exaggeration that some of the incels say that these herbs are as successful as alphas

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functionally. It's an exaggeration because these men cannot get one night stands, they cannot get variety. They're basically reduced to one hot girl's pet accessory like thing, right? But still, you understand what I'm saying? Is that freely given that you have to go to basically that length to make a girl comfortable to be your girlfriend? And then what often does happen is that the more normal fat girls who get into that and who have this kind of boyfriend that some some say because some say it's because the sexual market differential between them is so great that you know he is beholden to her and so she feels and she has all the power or otherwise that some say that they shack up with them out of fear and that this kind of man makes them this

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kind of male makes them not feel fear make them feel safe or even let's say just the dread of of being abandoned is or being cheated on is eliminated, right? But then the normal fat girls in such arrangements will often cheat with other men, as you'd suspect. So then you say, oh, but you're contradicting yourself, you Bronze Age pervert. I'm not contradicting myself because I've known girls like this even before the 2015s. They would feel comfortable having sex oars or going out to dance at night club or such and grinding Only once they already had a boyfriend, generally a boyfriend like this, because that would be the only to tolerate it or not know about it. Because without that, I'm sorry, I take that back, I exaggerate, listen, I've known completely alpha men who were cheated upon.

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You can't beat yourself up if that happens. It happens to almost any kind of men today, it doesn't matter. So I take that back, I'm sorry, I misspoke. But I've known girls who only would go to nightclub to hook up in bathroom or grind or would hook up with another man only once they had a boyfriend. Because without that security, you know, they'd be afraid to hook up with a guy. You see how bizarre this whole thing is. And then some other men make a sport of fucking these herbs, goofy herbs, girlfriends or wives, But they themselves don't get to have relationships or affairs or love, which is what many actually want, but they can't get that. So for real, some men want this, believe it or not. I knew in university, an especially handsome man who was the great-grandson of, I can't

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say it right, but it's a certain American president. And this man was exceptionally handsome and had a perfect physique, space cadet personality, and he got lots of girls. But he wanted a relationship and he could never have one. The girls just used him for sex. It caused him a lot of pain, apparently. I didn't know him well myself. I knew from friends who lived with him. He was handsome enough to make straight men question themselves, but girls wouldn't have him as their boyfriend. Why? Because they're faggots. Women are faggots, as I tell you in the first episode of the show. They were probably all deathly afraid of him. They were sure that he would abandon and cheat on them, and so they preempted that. You see how worthless as these faggot race of women, right?

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But such things have gotten much worse, and anyway, this is what I'm telling you. I've offered these incels I've met. I tell them, I will set you up with a prosti. Do you want a prostitute? And I was even indirect about it. I didn't quite put it that way. I wouldn't have let them know explicitly that it's a prosti. Like I would get them one of my girls and set them up. They wouldn't be paying, and they wouldn't know it's for pay. And they refused, you see. They told me there are too much romantics to do that, and this is what I'm getting at. These aren't like extreme socially inept or ugly guys who want to get off, but can't get no pussy or such. They're sensitive romantics. I mean, at its best or purest, that's what it is.

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And in fact, the very, by the very men who made up the word or rather the thoughts and ideas behind this word that it's probably an inadequate word, they did not invent it. But the men who thought the concepts through before 2020, when they were teenagers in the 2010s, basically, it's someone who deeply genuinely longs for love for real love for anime romance, let's say who feels much longing and pain at the fact that they were denied beautiful teenage romance and they wish for that still you know and they're unwilling to compromise and I think that correct I think that's I think that's respectable so when I tell you that I'm worried that men who orient their lives around the sexual problem or the woman thing are maybe unreliable allies in the

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fight against the left because they might abandon your cause if they get a girlfriend the response is there's a lot of content that's packed into the There's a lot of content into cannot get a girlfriend or romance of the type that they want. You see that's once you put it that I'm not so worried about that at least at scale because Society and mores would have to utterly change to make that possible at any scale a lot of these men are Just the good types of men who refuse to conform to the utterly degrading Conventions the ideas and manners expected of men today without which are largely not allowed to participate in this so-called called sexual market. Certainly not at the level of romance. You could be occasionally

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a side guy, maybe. You see the worst of this on Reddit, but it's not only that the behaviors of American women especially, absolutely outrageous, the avowals, the demands they make. It's not even to feminist dogma as such, you know, like younger women aren't especially into explicit feminist ideology. So trying to counter it on that level, as some conservatives imagine to do. It's not useful. It's been internalized, transformed to a degree over at least a generation of poisonings by the types of me too things that I mentioned. It's been so ingrained now with genocracy in the form of a self-conscious deranged intentionality on the part of women now, in which they are raised up to be like hyper rational, hyper conformist gay autists

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where anything off or slightly weird will immediately set them against you. They're They're basically regime functionaries of this degraded nomos convention of our time. And so the incel is fundamentally the man who is uncategorizable, refuses to have adopted one of the prefab personality types, the acceptable personality types of our time. So you know, unless you congeal yourself into a category, I mean readily recognizable by one of these dumb cunts, for example, stoner, nerd, skateboarder, you know, a band guy, a mountaineering guy, a lit guy, you know what I mean? I remember this from my own high school years. The extreme unease, especially the younger teachers, by the way, that they couldn't place me, couldn't figure out what, you know, you see this opting out of cretinous conformity

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of drab modern guilds, you know, you're expected to choose these modern guilds, and if you you don't, then you can't fully participate in social life and you're therefore scary to girls. In much the same way as in some countries, you know, not having an Instagram account or other social media, you are immediately suspicious and possibly dangerous in a not sexy way, you see. The men who truly profit and conform to this feminist order, who reap its benefits, most of all, are not as you imagine, the male studs, they are the slaves and the utterly loathsome conformists, their entire being is molded, given to them by this gyno-gerontocratic matrix. As my friend says, it's not possible for a Lahore or Cairo, you know, that type of my

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friend, migrant, you know, a brown migrant of that type, it's not possible to be an incel for them in this meaning of things when you consider it such. That term was reserved, was reserved for high IQ, sensitive, elite young males who excluded themselves from the increasingly profitless banal drudgery of dating market. But yes, it's been degraded now to mean many other things with only at times glimmers of its original valence and character coming through. And if you've only heard about it now, as I say, you've come very late and are misinformed. I have no set opinion as yet on, for example, Clavicular, if you've heard of him. He's a media personality, currently spreading a version of incel or looks maxing, in this case, ideas.

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But most of my Zoomer friends who come out of these milieus don't like him. They think he's doing, excuse me, a minstrel performance that basically turns that whole thing into a kind of a safe clown show to keep people engaged you know superficially so that they can entertain a feeling of edginess and meanwhile the conversation moves nowhere it keeps people on the plantation you know in other words the same type of tate adjacent discourse right where tate did this for what so-called red pill ideas and that was a completely fruitless kind of discourse on Red Pill themes that introduced these as kind of edgy feeling concepts to make an audience feel engaged with something they might think is new, in the form of a

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meme that they can show others presented to them by this guy playing a gangster on TV. But in fact, in every other way, confirming them into participating in the current valuation of things. There was no serious idea content behind it. It's a lifestyle performance act and a purving in a very dumbed down version of these ideas to push buttons, but not really to persuade people to ideas that were quite complicated. And you see that also, you know, these kind of influencers, they do nothing to address the real problem of anything they ever, you know, the degraded condition of sexual relations right now, right? It's also what's happening with political things from Fortune as well. You know, the end result of all this is like

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having a Latino or Hispanic roommate do a cutesy one-off joke about the Jews, you know, or in this case having a girl refer a deprecating way to fem cells or roasties or supposed sympathy for incels. That's very common now online where these girls pretend that their fantasies to find an incel deprive him of his virginity, introduce him to the world, and of course they never do. They hook up with what are called fake cells. It's people who just also adopt the memes. It becomes like a meme trade kind of biome. It reduces this to a kind of cultural shorthand to show that one is in the know, and by publicizing it in this kind of pointless, provocative, button-pushing way, it actually defangs it. It's basically the purpose of the whole biome, also, of influencer video commentary in the

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whatever podcast, if you know what that is. It turns the—they address the so-called problem of degeneration of morals in our time, But it's actually an opportunity just to feel indignant at these whores who are welcomed on this panel on this basically TV show on the internet. It's called the Whatever Podcast, right? And they welcome whores on to sit in so-called interviews and berate them and with indignant faces wander and make the audience wonder at their depravities and evils. Oh, you're such a moral transgressor. And meanwhile, they get affiliate dollars for the new subscribers that the whores get. You see how it works. So then if you're only hearing about the insulting now, it's likely through one of these channels

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where you're getting extreme distorted dumbed-down form that actually defangs the ideas. I encourage clavicular dispersonage if anyone is listening is his friend and if he has good intentions to use his image instead to spread the writings of F. Roger Devlin who I mentioned earlier and whose three or four essays on the lowness and the vulgarity of the modern women are still quite very good and he points with much rich content at their delusions, their malignant psychology and especially at the legal framework that was developed since the 1960s, the civil rights law, family law, pro-female protection and other such laws which are the scaffolding on which all this rot has grown. And I encourage all friends who are interested in these matters to pursue that angle especially,

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angle of the legal and moral foundations of how this came about. Until those laws are overthrown and a glimmer of the true order of nature is reestablished, there's no hope you can solve this by just inveighing against, at least focus on the evils of the female faggot nature. But in any case, I will now end this episode with promise to continue this question in some detail in the near future. You know a second in cell a sequel to this is necessary soon I think because I must tell you I am always with beautiful line from a Roman of You can expel nature with a pitchfork, but she will always return nature is the unforgettable I'll be back in a few days and until then happy new year to all friends and have vodka caviar Moscow party

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I grope you in Moscow nightclub bathroom until next time BAP out